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Name: MorDeKhai  •  Title: Mary vs Mary  •  Date posted: 02/27/07 20:42
Q: They claim to find Jesus' Tomb. They say archaeologists, forensics experts, statisticians, etc. have COME TOGETHER to decipher "one of the greatest mysteries of all time"

sounds more like a circus advertisement to me.

Look at the motives...Follow the money...Do your own research, believe me there are tons of debates, theories, findings...you name it. The truth will reveal itself, no one will have to go digging it up.

I have a Question:
WHY, IF YOU SAY YOU PAY ATTENTION TO CLOSE DETAIL, DO YOU HAVE ON A WEB SITE INTRO PAGE A CLAIM THAT "An incredible archaeological discovery in Israel changes history and shocks the world. Tombs with the names The Virgin Mary, Jesus of Nazareth, Mary Magdalene and Judas, their son, are found and an investigation begins."

"...Tombs with the names The Virgin Mary, Jesus of Nazareth, Mary Magdalene and Judas, their son, are found..."

"Ossuary 80/505 was inscribed “Maria” – a Latinized version of the name “Miriam,” rendered in Hebrew letters. AND Ossuary 80/500: “Mariamene e Mara” – “Mariamne, also called Master”

BUT WAIT THE INTRO PAGE SAID "...The Virgin Mary..."
AND "...Mary Magdalene.." NAMES FOUND


Oh...and if this were a court of law (and since they use legal nomenclature)
CREDIBILITY is something you need. I found a little dent in that armor. I'm sure with your own searching you will find some too.


2Pe 3:2-4
"I want you to remember and understand what the holy prophets said long ago and what our Lord and Savior commanded through your apostles. First, I want to remind you that in the last days there will be scoffers who will laugh at the truth and do every evil thing they desire. This will be their argument: "Jesus promised to come back, did he? Then where is he? Why, as far back as anyone can remember, everything has remained exactly the same since the world was first created." NLT
2Pe 3:9
"The Lord isn't really being slow about his promise to return, as some people think. No, he is being patient for your sake. He does not want anyone to perish, so he is giving more time for everyone to repent."NLT

Repent! (makers of this film)
For the kingdom of heaven is at hand.

A servant of Jesus Christ
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Name: MorDeKhai  •  Date: 02/27/07 23:56
A: Read For Yourself !

(no hyphens in link)

(1- hypen between "bib" and "arch" and 2 underscores)

(n-o- hyphens in link)
Name: BeanSidhe  •  Date: 03/01/07 0:55
A: for you to post this all over the place in the forums you defiantly know what your talking about! so non sinner how did you get that way? I want to know can you help me be a non sinner just like you? 
Name: MorDeKhai  •  Date: 03/01/07 5:12
A: My friend, If your going to quote Jesus, please do it right.

John 8:7
So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, "He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her."

I am a sinner saved by grace and set free from the bondage of sin.

John 3:18-21
"He who believes in Him is not condemned; but he who does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. And this is the condemnation, that the light has come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. For everyone practicing evil hates the light and does not come to the light, lest his deeds should be exposed. But he who does the truth comes to the light, that his deeds may be clearly seen, that they have been done in God."

A servent of Jesus Christ
Name: BeanSidhe  •  Date: 03/01/07 5:36
A: so you are quoting correctly then? so you are quoting straight from the gospel before it was ripped apart? You want to be correct get "those" texts and be correct, but the meaning behind what i had posted was that no one is correct, no one has the right to point fingers but for your information you didn't even read what i wrote, I was asking you a favor and you if you were such a servant and my friend like you say i am then why didn't you help me? 
Name: BeanSidhe  •  Date: 03/01/07 7:09
A: but you also put the filmakers down why? I thought it was good to seek and find answers, have you thought that maybe this is there way? I mean they could have been non believers but they are not, that should mean something shouldnt it, so why couldent this be the tomb? where did their bodies go? it had to go somewhere The bible was written by man yes i agree that it was influenced by god but humans are humans proven that they are capable of telling half truths and total lies, but some are total saints but that is few and far between even then.
Keep an open mind this film and this whole experience may change lives for the better make believers out of the non try looking for good at things instead of making things so negative so what if this is real it would be great if it was and if it was not then we will learn from it and become better people, but don't drown peoples hope, in this day in age that all that some people has but good always comes out even out the darkest parts of anyones life I have looked at your page its very informative I am open to new suggestions even ones that seem farfected I am a questioning person willing to learn everything but I also like to challenge people to look inside themselves even for a brief moment, My questions may seem buttholish but that is the only way to get to know people for who they are, it seems to bring them out of their shell,.
please save the scripture throwing and talk to me drop the preacher mask for a minute and talk to me normal that is all I am asking I have had enough scripture throwing in my life, I grew up in a penticostal church/ home later baptist ( I have nothing aginst these religions or any other to me you can learn beautiflul things in everything) yes I am fully aware that I only used half of the scripture but the meaning behind it was there , so I ask of you which is more important the words of the scripture or the meaning? to me it would be meaning, one would suggest you need all the words to get the full meaning but if the meaning is there in just the few short words then why not use it in that way?
so now talk to me and everyone else don't attack with scripture and expect to change lives for the good, thats what got me and allot of others out of church I felt like i was under attack and not allowed to question and learn.
not to be funny but I was having memories of my abusive childhood with all this scripture attack that is why I responded the way I was I felt threaten, then everyone could say ignore it but for some reason ( prob the memories) kept me going I want to hear you as a person not a attacker 
Name: osirius608  •  Date: 03/01/07 19:53
A: I agree with BeanSidhe wherein, once something has been TRANSLATED, it's meaning is LOST! Interpretation based on personal views is what you see today...the original meaning IS GONE and has been twisted to benefit those who want power. 
Name: MorDeKhai  •  Date: 03/02/07 11:02
A: I'm sorry to hear about your childhood BeanSidhe. Mine wasn't that delightful either.

The writing is on the wall, concerning this money making scheme. Dozens of archeologists and scholars have already concluded that the Talpiot tomb belonged to a middle class family and is in no way connect to Jesus of Nazareth. Everything is well documented and is out there for people to find...That's why I say;
"Look at the motives...Follow the money...Do your own research, believe me there are tons of debates, theories, findings...you name it. The truth will reveal itself, no one will have to go digging it up.

As far as scripture is concerned, it is the word of GOD. Infallible however misused and misinterpreted by many people because of chronological, geographical, linguistical, ethical, cultural, spiritual and literary gaps in understanding, just to name a few.

And finally... sometimes when we live in disobedience, God's truth hurts. When we live in obedience to what Jesus Christ taught, the Word of God is like a sweet music to our ears. I live it. You should too. It's a beautiful place...and if you do... praise God!

A servent of Jesus Christ 
Name: Lore  •  Date: 03/03/07 1:38
A: Here's a few places you might want to visit or join if you're interested in Mary Magdalene:

The oldest and most respected discussion list concerning Mary Magdalene. Margaret Starbird, Ki Longfellow, Joan Norton, Dr. Jim Gardner and other well-known authors post regularly


Order- of Mary Magdala discussion list

Goddess- Christian discussion list

Th-e- goddess-Christian oriented Esoteric Mystery School
Name: marianotthatofjesus_  •  Date: 03/05/07 14:38
A: Whether you believe or not, it's your own problem. They try to persuade us that he who feels desperate in this life should find comfortness in another world.Life is here in this place now. Don't expect to find anything somewhere else. If you are an honest person this is for you -nobody else 
Name: rainier3  •  Date: 03/11/07 5:45
A: I can say that the original gospel might have been changes through personal definitions thus the true meanings of the gospels could have been lost in time 
Name: revelation616  •  Date: 03/28/07 0:09
A: When Benedict betrays the faith, the Second Coming will be revealed. Don't look for a body in the sky. The second coming of Christ is the return of His story. His REAL story. The spoken words of Christ. 
Name: Anchorite  •  Date: 03/28/07 3:46
A: Assuming the topic of this thread is the Second Coming...

Physically, this is the only second coming I think we can get. Spiritually, I believe the second coming would have to be via a reworking of the message of Jesus, a shifting closer to the source. The Chevron and Circle is a step. An emphasis on gnostic Gospels, another. In combination with Taoistic notions, yet another. Will East and West finally meet? Will our Globe unite? Perhaps not a safe bet, but possibly.

A common humanity would be nice, no?


I might as well be
Three-thousand and three
I'm Easter Island mould

I'm training on
On He beyond approach

The One
The Him
Of synonyms
Of Ages unresolved

He knocks upon
My stony head
And keeps me uninvolved

Name: Panluna  •  Date: 04/06/07 17:04
A: Good poem Anchorite.I write poetry,too 
Name: Anchorite  •  Date: 04/06/07 21:30
A: Hi Panluna,

Prisoner of metaphor... I have hundreds!

On the subject of visiting tombs...


She came to see a wall she thought
Marble pink and squat

A wall about a carvèd floor
Lit below a vault

A ribbèd vault spun overtop
More pink more veins
What flew the crowd

Peace did reign
Since none could gain
He beneath the shroud

Name: Panluna  •  Date: 04/07/07 1:21
A: WOW!!!!Do you have a book published? 
Name: Anchorite  •  Date: 04/07/07 17:48

No - no book. I've taken baby steps. Seems too painful a process.

The above came to me in a dream, 2 days before I found some pix of Martin Luther King's tomb on the net.

On the subject of wrong-doing...


I was taught there is an absolute good
And an absolute evil
That's... wait!

My father's beard was big and square
His hat was round and pearly
His pigeons black or white
No middle
His cages to the ceiling

And though clean-shaven I'm today
My hat is decorated
Pigeons deal me information
And nailing is our aim

Name: jared  •  Date: 06/21/07 9:43

Oh...and if this were a court of law (and since they use legal nomenclature)

CREDIBILITY is something you need. I found a little dent in that armor. I'm sure with your own searching you will find some too.

Name: Panluna  •  Date: 06/26/07 14:10
A: Jared,
Who were you refering to?if they had followed up on the discovery the whole world would have kown about the tomb in 1980 and everything might have been handled differently.It could have become a place for holy pilgramage.The Talpiot tomb is the real tomb of Jesus and his family.The evidence proves it.Read the book The JESUS FAMILY TOMB.It's very detailed. 
Name: Cathy  •  Date: 03/18/09 18:19
A: I found that when people say that this tomb "could not be the tomb of Christ as he was ressurected," this puts limitations on the almighty God, God can do anything he wants, he could give him a new body, or a more permiable one, those bones could be his, and I think possibly are. God is all powerful, he won't break his own laws though! 

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