Name:vvk •
Title: ALLAH CANNOT BE A GOD •
Date posted: 01/08/11 9:25
Q: Why Allah cannot be a God
If you are a Muslim and can tell me why Allah is a God, please read my FAQ, and if your question is not answered there, contact me. I will answer your question and will include it in my FAQ section.
There are many reasons why Allah cannot be a God:
1) Quran shows no signs of being a divine book.
This can be subdivided into:
a) There are no miracles in Quran, and thus no sign that men or man could not have created this book.
b) Instead, Quran has wrong science in it, and wrong moral ideas.
c) If Quran was truely from God, it would contain knowledge that we are not aware of yet. You think Quran has science? Read about the pre-Islamic scientific World and the wonderful scientists who were born before Islam came. If Quran wanted to convey science, why did it not convey all the science we know of? Instead, it conveyed either common sense, OR ideas stolen from Greek scientists. There is every reason I can give to tell you how Mohammed stole from Greeks. Remember, you do not have to be educated to hear a scientists knowledge from far-away lands, and lie to people around you to claim the scientific knowledge as "revealed" from God!
Thus the claim that Mohammed was not educated and could not have known all this, is FALSE!
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d) A real God would not allow his important message to be taken in a wrong way:
Quran is supposed to be an important message for humanity, rioght. If Quran was an important message to humanity from a real God, its Creator would have made SURE that the message would not be taken in a wrong way. The day is coming when more and more people are hating Islam. Assuming that Quran was from God, it is unfortunate to be born in such an era, where this important message of God is being hated so much.
Would the real creator (if he exists) allow any of His dear creation to be born in a place where His message was being hated so much, and thus not receive the message in the correct context? Ofcourse not.
The message of a Real God to his creation, would be very important and there would be NO one who would be able to tarnish the clean image of his message.
We have sane people finding faults with Quran and talking about using it as toilet paper. Would a real God allow this to happen to his message?
Not if he thought his message was important!
God wants to test us? For what? Are we the guineu pigs of the Universe? No, we're not! God doesnt even have any rights on us!
e) God would never declare his previous messages to be false, and only the latest one(Islam) to be true.
A real God would NEVER say this:
"And if any believe not in Allah and His Messenger, We have prepared, for those who reject Allah, a Blazing Fire!" -Quran 48:13
This verse is clearly talking about Islam and not just any Messenger or religion. There is another verse which says that "no religion will be accepted of man except Islam". (3:85).
f) A real God would not violate our rights.
Besides the above reasons, there is another logical explanation of why Allah cannot be a God.
Allah is a God who becomes offended if you abuse or disobey him. What kind of weak God is that?
Here is an explanation, of why:
1) God cannot be offended when man abuses him. 2) Allah cannot be a true god. I will present two approaches to prove this. First, I will prove by logical reasoning that Allah cannot be a God. Then, I will present an analogy to support my claim further.
2) Logical Reasoning
God is supposed to be an infinitely powerful being. It is not possible to have any power or influence over an infinitely powerful being. It is not possible to effect God in any way.
I cannot make God angry, niether can I make him happy. If I could make God happy or angry, it would mean that I have some control over God's emotions. Thus, I would have some control over God. But such a God, whose emotions (anger) I can control, cannot be a God. When even a billion blackholes, which have the power to bend light, due to enormous gravitational attraction, cannot effect God, then can I, a 65 Kg man, effect God in any way? No.Now, let us study Allah, the God of Muslims. A muslim is told to worship Allah and praise him. Allah created man to worship him (Q:51.56). We know that Allah will punish all those who dont believe in him Quran 48.13 "And if any believe not in Allah and His Messenger, We have prepared, for those who reject Allah, a Blazing Fire!" Thus, if Allah will punish anyone who does'nt believe in him, he will also punish anyone who abuses him. But if Allah punishes anyone who abuses him, it means that Allah is offended when a human abuses him. This means that a human being can offend Allah, by either disobeying his orders, or abusing him. If a human can offend Allah, it means that the human being has control over Allah's emotions. A human being has control over Allah's anger and thus has partial control over Allah. But we know from our earlier discussion, that a being cannot be a God, if its emotions can be controlled by a human being.
Note: Abusing another human is a different matter, because a human can be effected by abuse, since she/he is not infinitely powerful, as God is. It makes sense to say that if God existed, he would provide justice to all those who were abused in any way, and would give punishment to those who abused the humans. BUT, God would not be angry at the criminals. The role of a good judge is to provide justice, without being effected by hate or anger, induced by the criminal. If Allah can become angry due to a human abusing him, the rule of Allah being the strongest entity is violated. Conclusion: Allah, the God of Muslims, can not be a God. Now I will present an analogy to make this explanation more clear.
Analogy
A guy whom we shall call 'X', is doing a study on social behaviors, decides to do an experiment. He wants to see the reaction of abuse on different types of people. He goes out on a street to meet people and chooses one guy whom he calls 'A'.
X says some verbal abuse and racial remarks to 'A'. But 'A' is a cool-headed guy and does not mind the abuse. Instead, he thinks to himself, that this guy must be insane. 'A' does not let his anger grow and just looks on to 'X' with amusement and raises his eyebrows and then ignores ‘X’, thinking its nothing to be serious about. X notes down the reaction of 'A' in his research journal and walks away to find another guy, whom he calls 'B'. Now, ‘B’ is a hot headed guy, who can become angry on the smallest of things. ‘X’ calls him some verbal abuse along with racial remarks. ‘B’'s anger shoots up very quickly and his blood begins to boil. He starts abusing ‘X’ in return, making even bigger and more vulgar abuse to ‘X’, telling him to '#$^@ off'. ‘B’ starts coming near ‘X’ and it looks like hes ready to punch X in the face. Before ‘B’ can do that, ‘X’ runs away for his life and disappears.
His study is complete. Which person, 'A' or 'B', has the greater character strength ? If you were to choose a leader for a group, who would you choose between 'A' and 'B' ? The vast majority of people would chose 'A' as the leader, who has more strong character, and has proven to be more resistant to attacks than ‘B’. Lets transfer this example to God’s. Suppose there are two God's.
One of them is God ‘B’, who is a sensitive God and for him, its easy to become angry when a human abuses him. So down on the planet, there is a man who abuses God B. God B becomes angry and he plans to punish the human for what he did. The God plans to burn the human and give him all sorts of pain when he dies. The other God, called God A, is cool-headed and when He sees a human being abuse Him, He doesn't mind, because his ego is not so sensitive as that of God B. God A loves humans unconditionally and infinitely. When He sees the human abuse Him, he thinks to himself that this human might be crazy and he forgives that human. He knows that abuse doesn't effect him. He still loves the human, and he knows that a human cannot harm Him in any way. When the human will die, he will see for himself, how loving God is.
So God A says to himself : “Nevermind, he's a human, my loved creation, it doesn’t matter to me if he believes in me or not. His belief or disbelief does not effect ME because I have infinite power over all things. I cannot be effected by even a million black holes, let alone a 65 kg 5’6” tall human, who will live only 70 years.” Which of the Gods, A or B, is more strong and loving ? Which of God do you think rules the universe?
A large majority of the people would choose God 'A', the one who is not affected by human abuse or love and loves his creation infinitely. If Allah is infinite in power, he is infinite in strength of personal character. If Allah can become angry due to a human abusing him, the rule of Allah being the strongest entity is violated.
Conclusion:
God, if exists, does not and cannot become angry when a human praises/abuses him. Thus, Allah, the god of Muslims, who can be offended by abuse, can NOT be a true god.
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Abul Kasem
Name:sam •
Date: 01/08/11 22:28
A: Mr. v v k,
You asked, "If you are a Muslim and can tell me why Allah is a God."
WHY "ELOH'IM" IS God, because MOSES told us.
WHY "ELI" IS God, because JESUS told us.
WHY "ALLAH" IS God, because ALLAH told us, as he told Abraham, Moses, Jesus and Muhammad.
ELOH'IM , IS THE WORD IN CALLING THE CREATOR BY ABRAHAM AND MOSES. [old testament-Aramaic/Hebrew ] and both they PROSTRATE to ELOH'IM while praying to Him in Aramaic -Hebrew words.
THE NAME ALOH'IM IS USED BY EVERY JEWS ALL AROUND THE WORLD, NO MATTER WHAT COUNTRY THEY LIVE IN.
ALLAH, IS THE WORD TO CALL THE CREATOR AS THE NUSLIMS BEEN ORDERED, AND MUHAMMED PROSTRATE TO ALLAH IN HIS PRAYERS, AS ABRAHAM, MOSES , AND JESUS DONE BEFORE HIM.
THE NAME ALLAH IS USED BY EVERY MUSLIM ALL AROUND THE WORLD, NO MATTER WHAT COUNTRY THEY LIVE IN.
ELI, ELI, ARE JESUS WORDS IN COLLING HIS CREATOR. [new testament] and Jesus PROSTRATE while praying to ELI/ELOH'IM and uses the Aramaic or Hebrew words, also Jesus used the name ALLAH [In one decomentary about the life of Jesus}.
THE NAME " ELI /ELOH'IM" NEVER BEEN USED BY ANY CHRISTIAN AROUND THE WORLD, except the Arab Christians [many millions] they use the word Allah in general, but they use the word "RAB" for Jesus as Jesus is the creator !!!.
ELI....ELOH'IM....ALLAH.... THESE ARE THE TRUE NAME FOR THE CREATOR SPOKEN BY ALL THE PROPHETS.
BUT:
For the English he is "GOD", and for the French he is "DIEW", and for every county there is a "GOD" in different name, names by the hundreds !!!, NAMES WHICH NEVER BEEN KNOWN TO ANY PROPHET!!!.
BUT:
V V K & AND ALL THE CHRISTIANS DO NOT ACCEPT THE CREATOR NAME AS BEEN SPOKEN BY ALL THE PROPHETS, INSTEAD THE FALSIFY THEM, AND CREATE NAMES BY THEMSELVES AND THEY SAY THIS THE REAL CREATOR, AS THEY CREATE "the three persons god", WHILE THE FIRST COMMANDMENT TELLS THEM THAT THERE IS ONLY ONE "ELOH'IM", AND JESUS SAID "OUR ELOH'IM IS ONE" !!!!
v v k, If you open the following sites, you will get the right knowledge about what you call your 'GOD', and it is presented by Jews.
- A Jew leaks out the true name of the God of the OT
- The true name of God.
You said,
1- "God, if exists,"
THE QUESTION : CAN YOU SEE YOUR OWN BRAIN, AND HOW IT WORK...
THE ANSWER, OF COURSE NOT....
SO IF YOU DO NOT SEE YOUR BRAIN AND HOW IT WORK, IS THAT MEANS THAT YOU ARE WITHOUT BRAIN?
2- " does not and cannot become angry when a human praises/abuses him. Thus, Allah, the god of Muslims, who can be offended by abuse, can NOT be a true god. "
If you live, in a country [any country], and abuse the contry, its leader or its people, do you think that they will not be angry at you ?, while they did not create the earth which you live on, and they never create the water and the food which you depend on, and they never created you, so why they should be angry at you ?.
You think it is right to kill and steal and do whatever you like without a punishment?, and without getting anyone angry at you?.
You think it is right to do good in serving your country and the people, and not to get any rewards for it ?.
If you come to visit a house, it is not suppose that you respect the people of the house and their laws and do the right things ?, but if you did not give any respect, you think that they will be not angry at you, and then they might punish you and throw you out.
So, how can you not accept that the creator [ELI/ELO'HIM/ALLH/GOD] HAS NO RIGHT TO BE ANGRY AND PUNISH THOSE WHO GAVE THEM LIFE, AND LIVE ON HIS EARTH WHICH HE CREATED ?.
v v k, If you do not believe in your creator [Allah/Alo'him/God], and you are from His creation, but you believe in the evolutionist theory, and that you are the descendant from the APES family , that OK with me, and I think it is OK to follow the apes law, and I will never argue with you, and I will respect your choice.
