Name:vvk •
Title: CARROT AND STICK •
Date posted: 01/08/11 10:42
Q: Apostate
Abul Kasem -
The Carrot and the Stick
(Heaven, Hell and a Muslim)
The Carrot of Heaven
(Numerals denote Quranic Ayats)
The Stick of Hell
• Rivers of Milk and Wine, and honey (47.15)
• Fruit and Meat (52.22)
• Young male servants (52.24)
• Dishes of Gold (43.71)
• Women with big beautiful eyes (44.54)
• Facing each other, Sitting on Thrones(37.44)
• No headaches or tiredness (37.47)
• Wear ornaments of pearl and gold, and clothes of silk (35.33) • Blazing fire (48.13)
• Drinks of boiling water which cuts into the stomach (47.15)
• Boiling fluid, dark and intensely cold (38.57)
• A fruit which will boil the insides of the sinners, like boiling water (44.43-46)
• Boiling water will be poured on the sinner’s head. (44.48)
• Bound together in chains ( 14.49)
• Their skins will be replaced when they are roasted in fire. (4.56)
• They will eat fruits shaped like the devil, and then drink boiling water.(37.65-68)
• Whips of Iron (22.21)
"I cannot imagine a God who rewards and punishes the objects of his creation, whose purposes are modeled after our own -- a God, in short, who is but a reflection of human frailty. Neither can I believe that the individual survives the death of his body, although feeble souls harbor such thoughts through fear or ridiculous egotism." - Albert Einstein
Name:vvk •
Date: 01/08/11 10:47
A: Muhammed
(Alternate spellings: Muhammad/Mohammad/Mohammed)
Muhammed was an Arab man, who lived 1400 years ago.
To realize his desire to rule over people, and satisfy his above-average sexual desires, he lied to everyone that he was receiving revelations from God.
Comparing to his surrounding people who were immoral enough to bury their infant daughers, he was a relatively clever guy, intelligent, but evil to the core. Studying Islam almost makes one think Mohammed was the devil himself which he kept talking of.
From a muslim perspective, Mohammed was a kind truthful man, and the true last prophet of God.
Read the Quran and Hadith and decide for yourself.
This is all there is to him. He was an evil liar and a violent man with a larger than usual sexual appetite. He was a pedophile, because when he was 54 years old, he married a 9 year old little girl. He was old enough to be her grandfather.
If Mohammed was truelly a prophet, he would have set better examples.
If Allah was a true god, he would know that Mohammed would be called a pedophile in the future. How could Allah allow his last messenger to be called a pedophile in the future? Was it necessary for Mohammed to have married a 9 year old little girl and result in being called a pedophile later on?
Character defects like these and many other factors, such as the absence of miracles in Quran disqualify Mohammed as being the last messenger of God.
Name:vvk •
Date: 01/08/11 10:55
A: Dear Muslim brothers and sisters
Do you think the following "verse" offends you?
"Slay the Muslims wherever you find them. Seize them, surround them and everywhere lie in ambush for them. But if they repent from their wrong beliefs and become humans, then spare their lives." (9:5)
We also agree that this fake verse is offensive to Muslims and encourages non-Muslims to kill them. Here's the real ayat in Quran 9:5:
"Then, when the sacred months have passed, slay the idolaters wherever ye find them, and take them (captive), and besiege them, and prepare for them each ambush. But if they repent and establish worship and pay the poor-due, then leave their way free." (9:5)
Do you see now how Quran is offensive to non-muslims?
As you know Life is valuable, and nothing should be taken for granted! We have (been given) brains- let us use them.
From a Muslim point of view, our brain is a bounty and a miracle from Allah. Therefore, not to use our brain is to be unthankful to Allah! Let us think about Islam.
You may not like what we have to say; you may become angry, depressed or saddened by hearing what we have to say. For that we apologize in advance, but all this is for your own good. It is like taking a poisonous sweet away from an unsuspecting child. The sweet is harmful, but the child may not understand this and will not like the sweet being taken away from it.
Our intention is not to hurt you at all, but to guide you and save you and future human generations from a life of needless pain and suffering.
Before we embark on our journey to enlighten you, please understand these certain logical rules:
HOT LINKS
What is humanism?
Islamicity
(well-designed Muslim website)
Statistics about World Religions
Philanthropists in History
World Peace Project for Children
Quotations from famous Humanists
Universal Declaration of Human Rights
1) If Allah is a God, He is the most sensible and the most strong being in the Universe. In this respect:
If a religion does not make sense for many sane people, it cannot be a religion from God. Therfore, Islam (Allah's religion) must make sense in every way.
Allah cannot be hurt in any way by human's. (Humans are different from God; They are vulnerable and can be hurt)
Allah cannot and does not depend on Humans for anyone, therefore He does not need worship. This is in conjunction with the first rule, that He cannot be hurt if we dont worship Him. Niether can He benefit from our worship in ANY way. If humans are the ones who need to worship Him, it doesnt make sense for Allah to punish them if they dont worship Him. This is an extremely important point, please go over it again and if you have questions, ask us.
2) If Allah was a God and Quran was God’s message:
Allah would make sure that Quran would contain miracles and signs that could never have been created by a false prophet.
Allah would not include rules in His religion that could be conceived as “bad” by sane humans
3) If a man claims that he is a messenger of God, he may be lying. It is very important to verify his claims, before we can believe him. He might only be wanting to control people or have other motives. If we allow ourselves to be a fooled by a false prophet, we risk making the real God unhappy.
4) For the above reason, many false religions have been created in the past, and the God claimed in these religions is not the same God as the real God.
5) If Islam is not true, then not believing in Islam does'nt mean that one doesnt believe in God. In other words, you can still believe in God without being a Muslim.
If you disagree with any of these rules, please send us a message and tell us what you think. Please be sure to mention which rule you dont agree with and why.
Let us be honest with our own beliefs: We no longer believe in any religion, and in our opinion, all religions are only creations of man.
We know you will not to like to hear this but the truth is that Mohammed was not a prophet of god. He was not telling the truth when he said he was receiving revelations from god.
All he wanted to do was to control the population. That is what he did, by creating Islam.
Dear brothers and sisters, we have all the evidence and reasoning to know that:
Allah is not a god, but an imaginary character created by Mohammed.
Mohammed was not a prophet of god
Quran is not from god and it is not a divine book. Neither does it contain any valid miracles.
World scientists also agree with us and they have come to the conclusion that there is no divine content in the Quran.
Think: Could it not have been possible that Mohammed was pretending to be a prophet of God?
Remember rule 1 above! If Allah is a god, he is the most sensible being in the Universe. Therefore, do not be afraid to think and question Islam! If Islam was from God, it could face all the questions in the Universe without any problem.
So fear not, dear friend!
We are with you and if at any point, you have questions to ask, please do not hesitate to question us by using the contact form. We will answer your questions and place the answers in the FAQ section and will let you know that your question has been answered.
Here's an interesting quotation from a famous person about whom we have all heard:
"It seems to me that the idea of a personal God is an anthropological concept which I cannot take seriously. I also cannot imagine some will or goal outside the human sphere.... Science has been charged with undermining morality, but the charge is unjust. A man's ethical behavior should be based effectually on sympathy, education, and social ties and needs; no religious basis is necessary. Man would indeed be in a poor way if he had to be restrained by fear of punishment and hope of reward after death."
- ALBERT EINSTEIN (scientist, Nobel Prize winner in physics, originator of the theory of relativity.)
Name:sam •
Date: 01/09/11 22:15
A: Mr. v v k,
You said:
Here's an interesting quotation from a famous person about whom we have all heard:
"It seems to me that the idea of a personal God is an anthropological concept which I cannot take seriously......"
- ALBERT EINSTEIN (scientist, Nobel Prize winner in physics, originator of the theory of relativity.)
I do respect Albert Einstein, he is a great scientist, and I will say the same about many others who came before him, and what about Galileo ?.
But my question is , "ARE THEIR WORKS 100% CORRECT?.
Let us hear Einstein words:
"When Einstein heard of HUBBLE'S DISCOVERY *,
HE SAID THAT CHANGING HIS EQUATIONS WAS "THE BIGGEST BLUNDER OF HIS LIFE".
Einstein is a great scientist but NOT PERFECT.
Can v v k understand this fact?. I don't think so.
* This discovery was the first observational support for THE BIG BANG THEORY which had been proposed by Georges Lemaître in 1927. The observed velocities of distant galaxies, taken together with the cosmological principle appeared TO SHOW THAT THE UNIVERSE WAS EXPANDING.
THE BIG BANG..... THEN ...THE EXPANDING UNIVERSE
Mr. v v k , that means all the known universe which we know today started from a single explosion of one point in space 16-17 billions years ago [the universe is originated from ONE unit], and expanded and keeps expanding.
That is what Mr. Einstein agree to what Mr. Hubble came with, and all the scientists of the 21st century agree on.
Einstein , 1879 - 1955.......Hubble , 1889-1953
1400 years ago we get the same information that all the scientsts today agree on. it said:
HAVE THOSE WHO DISBELIEVED NOT CONSIDERED THAT THE HEAVEN AND EARTH WERE A JOINED ENTITY, AND WE SEPARATE THEM. 21:30
That is the BIG BANG itself.
AND THE HEAVEN WE CONSTRUCTED WITH STRENGTH AND INDEED WE ARE ITS EXPANDER. 51:47
And that is the expanding universe which Mr. Hubble come to find.
JOINED ENTITY....SEPARATE.....EXPAND
That what Mr. Hubble came with. Do you think that who created all that [THE CREATOR] knows the truth and to tell us before time to show the people that HE is the creator.
If we ask the question, "why did man did not know these facts before, AT THE TIME WHEN IT WAS MENTIONED?, then we have to go to the same source to find out:
AND YOU WILL SURELY KNOW THE TRUTH OF ITS INFORMATION AFTER TIME. 38:88
I HOPE YOU UNDERSTAND THIS FACT.
Galileo found out that the earth is not the centre of the world, and it is moving, but Galileo he does not know much about the universe of Einstein and Hubble, but 1400 years ago the information came to us to give us a full picture of the world which we live in:
AND IT IS HE WHO CREATED THE NIGHT AND THE DAY AND THE SUN AND THE MOON; ALL HEAVENLY BODIES, IN AN ORBIT ARE SWIMMING. 21:33
200 billions stars are swimming in an orbit in our galaxy, and that is happening in the billions of galaxies in our universe, and only stupid who do not believe in it as the truth in the 21st century.
Of course these information in the Quran, are not the knowledge of Muhammad, since Muhammad did not read or write, and He did not take His information from the Greeks and the Romans, because their scientists never came with same knowledge, which need a lot of highly developed instruments as TELESCOPES.
We call Einstein and Habble and the thousand others GREAT SCIENTISTS, those who came with new knowledge or discover things which are already there and here and everywhere, on the earth or in the space, But we do not recognize first, that there is no creation without creator.
MAN BELIEVE IN, THAT THERE IS A CREATOR FOR THE WHEEL EVEN HE DOESN'T KNOW WHO CREATED THE WHEEL !!!
BUT, MAN WHILE OBSERVING ALL THE CREATIONS AROUND HIM , AND WITHIN HIMSELF, HE DENY THAT THERE IS A CREATOR !!!.
Man with a small brain, can go as far as the limit of his brain, no more, he think he knows all, while he knows little, and he think he is stong, but the fact ,he is much weaker than the smallest things in our world, and man can create a lot of things from the things which already were created, but he will not ever be able to create thing from nothing, but the creator is able to do things all the things , things that the small brain of man will never be able to imagine.
O PEOPLE, AN EXAMPLE IS PRESENTED, SO LISTEN TO IT.
v v k, please listen.
INDEED, THOSE YOU INVOKE BESIDES ALLAH [GOD] WILL NEVER CREATE [AS MUCH AS] A FLY, EVEN IF THEY GATHERED TOGETHER FO IT [i.e., that purpose]. AND IF THE FLY SHOULD STEAL FROM THEM A TINY THING, THEY COULD NOT RECOVER IT FROM IT.
WEAK ARE THE PERSUER AND PERSUED. 22:73
v v k, you might not like or accept what is said in the Quran, that is OK, while you might accept that huam are originated from the apes that is OK too.
The Quran just gave many example, and said:
AND WE HAVE CERTAINLY PRESENTED TO THE PEOPLE IN THIS QURAN FROM EVERY KIND OF EXAMPLE, BUT [O MUHAMMAD] , IF YOU SHOULD BRING THEM A SIGN, THE DISBELIEVERS WILL SURELY SAY, “YOU [BELIEVERS] ARE BUT FALSIFIERS.” 30:58
Here God is mentioning you and others, and also said:
AND THESE EXAMPLES WE REPRESENT TO THE PEOPLE, BUT NONE WILL UNDERSTAND THEM EXCEPT THOSE OF KNOWLEDGE. 29:43
How can you understand if have just a little knowledge?
WE WILL SHOW THEM OUR SIGNS IN THE HORIZONS AND WITHIN THEMSELVES UNTIL IT BECOMES CLEAR TO THEM THAT IT IS THE TRUTH, BUT IT IS NOT SUFFICIENT CONCERNING YOUR LORD THAT HE IS, OVER ALL THINGS, A WITNESS?. 41:53
Did God show you the truth of how the universe started and how developed, and expanded before the arriving of Einstein & Habble, did you ever look to what within yourself from marvels of the creation ?, do you think that you are related to the apes, the chimpanzee ? and you think the chimp of today will turn to human after time ?.
