Name:sage •
Title: Mariamne, mother of Judah? •
Date posted: 03/16/07 4:01
Q: I just watched the documentary on Vision and I'm left with many questions, but one in particular that should be fairly easy to answer. If they can use matriarchal DNA testing to conclude that Jesus and Mariamne were NOT of the same mother, can they not use the same test to verify the maternal lines of Judah? If Mariamne is indeed his mother, and they've already tested her DNA, then they need a sample from Judah's ossuary to test against. Has anyone done this?
Name:aaron7 •
Date: 04/05/07 16:35
A: This is EXACTLY what I was wondering. Did they do the DNA test and it didn't match, so they didn't put it in the show? Did they not get a chance to do it before the show was completed?
Name:Panluna •
Date: 04/05/07 16:59
A: According to the book The Jesus Family Tomb which The Lost Tomb Of Jesus docmentary was based on the ossuary Judah was buried in was scrubbed really clean and then placed in a collection.They were unable to get the DNA samples.If you read the book there are more facts then mentioned in the documentary.If they could have been more on the ball in 1980 when the tomb and ossuaries were first discovered there would not been any of the mishaps--like the stolen ossuary of Jesus' brother.They didn't have much time to study contents and everything was filed away for 27 years.Can you imagine what the world view would be like now if this had been made public when it was first discovered and how do you think Pope Paul would have handled it?
Name:Panluna •
Date: 04/05/07 17:07
A: And as far as science is concerned they can test the bones if they can get permission from the authorities to do so.Then we can get a definite answer.
Name:nothing_but_the_truth •
Date: 04/06/07 3:45
A: 'Panluna' wrote:
"And as far as science is concerned they can test the bones if they can get permission from the authorities to do so.Then we can get a definite answer."
But where are the bones today? Even if they decided to dig them up and were allowed to do so, it would take a whole lot of work to find them all, assign each bone to the correct individual, _and_ make sure the samples don't contaminate each other.
I only hope the environmental conditions at the burial site haven't already caused irreversible damage and loss of dna -- if they managed to build some frickin' low-cost housing on the actual tomb, then I dare not think about what might happen to the bones in unmarked graves.
Name:Panluna •
Date: 04/06/07 15:49
A: Hind -sight gives 20/20 vision.If the people who found the tomb and the authorities who mis-handled the contents had paid more attention to this significant discovery we would have had our answers 27 years ago.I have no idea how contaiminated the bones might be.Forensic testing has been able to identify people buried for a great leanth of time or scattered in pieces in many murder cases.I'm sure they would still be able to get accurate DNA matter from those resting eternally in the grave.
I have an idea that the graves are probably marked in someway respectful of their occupants,and skeletons can be pieced together in bare-bone science.
Name:sage •
Date: 04/07/07 5:34
A: THIS is exactly what I've been saying!
Where are the bones? I can't imagine a group as knowledgable and powerful as the antiquities counsel would screw up so badly as to not only bury remains, but not list them and the family name and their new location?????
Doesn't make any sense... I think something's missing here....
Name:Anchorite •
Date: 04/07/07 19:14
A: The DNA facts will be numerous. Their combinations overwhelming.