Sheikh Muhammad Al-Saleh Al-‘Athimein said in a sermon at the Great Mosque in Al-‘Unayza, Arabia:
O Muslims, the Jews are treacherous and deceitful people over whom lies the curse and anger of Allah. They permitted what Allah forbade, with the lamest of excuses; therefore, He cursed them and turned them into apes and pigs. Allah sentenced them to humiliation anywhere they might be ...
And (O Children of Israel, remember) when We took your covenant and We raised above you the Mount (saying): "Hold fast to that which We have given you, and remember that which is therein so that you may become Al-Muttaqun. Then after that you turned away. Had it not been for the Grace and Mercy of Allah upon you, indeed you would have been among the losers. And indeed you knew those amongst you who transgressed in the matter of the Sabbath. We said to them: "Be you monkeys, despised and rejected."
5:60
Say (O Muhammad to the people of the Scripture): "Shall I inform you of something worse than that, regarding the recompense from Allah: those (Jews) who incurred the Curse of Allah and His Wrath, those of whom (some) He transformed into monkeys and swines
7:166
So when they exceeded the limits of what they were prohibited, We said to them: "Be you monkeys, despised and rejected."
Bukhari 7.494B:
Narrated Abu 'Amir or Abu Malik Al-Ash'ari:
that he heard the Prophet saying, "From among my followers there will be some people who will consider illegal sexual intercourse, the wearing of silk, the drinking of alcoholic drinks and the use of musical instruments, as lawful. And there will be some people who will stay near the side of a mountain and in the evening their shepherd will come to them with their sheep and ask them for something, but they will say to him, 'Return to us tomorrow.' Allah will destroy them during the night and will let the mountain fall on them, and He will transform the rest of them into monkeys and pigs and they will remain so till the Day of Resurrection."
Take the verses from the world famous Masnawi by Hazrat:
I died as mineral and became a plant,
I died as plant and rose to animal,
I died as animal and I was man.
Why should I fear?
When was I less by dying?
Yet once more I shall die as man,
To soar with angels blest;
But even from angelhood I must pass on ...
Bukhari 4.524:
Narrated Abu Huraira:
The Prophet said, "A group of Israelites were lost. Nobody knows what they did. But I do not see them except that they were cursed and changed into rats,
Abu Dawud Book 27, Number 3786:
Narrated Thabit ibn Wadi'ah:
We were in an army with the Apostle of Allah . We got some lizards. I roasted one lizard and brought it to the Apostle of Allah and placed it before him. He took a stick and counted its fingers. He then said: A group from the children of Isra'il was transformed into an animal of the land,
Do you Buddhists believe in rebirth as an animal in the next life? Are you going to be a dog or a cow in the future? Does the soul transmigrate into the body of another person or some animal? What is the difference between transmigration and reincarnation? Is it the same as rebirth? Is karma the same as fate? These and a hundred similar questions are often put to me.
A gross misunderstanding of about Buddhism exists today, especially in the notion of reincarnation. The common misunderstanding is that a person has led countless previous lives, usually as an animal, but somehow in this life he is born as a human being and in the next life he will be reborn as an animal, depending on the kind of life he has lived.
This misunderstanding arises because people usually do not know-how to read the sutras or sacred writings. It is said that the Buddha left 84,000 teachings; the symbolic figure represents the diverse backgrounds characteristics, tastes, etc. of the people. The Buddha taught according to the mental and spiritual capacity of each individual. For the simple village folks living during the time of the Buddha, the doctrine of reincarnation was a powerful moral lesson. Fear of birth into the animal world must have frightened many people from acting like animals in this life. If we take this teaching literally today we are confused because we cannot understand it rationally.
Herein lies our problem. A parable, when taken literally, does not make sense to the modern mind. Therefore we must learn to differentiate the parables and myths from actuality. However, if we learn to go beyond or transcend the parables and myths, we will be able to understand the truth.
People will say "If such is the case why not speak directly so that we will be able to come to an immediate grasp of the truth?" This statement is understandable, but truth is often inexpressible. [Ed comment: we as human beings are limited in understanding "Buddha Knowledge". We cannot speak TRUTH, only words ABOUT Truth] Thus, writers and teachers have often resorted to the language of the imagination to lead the reader from a lower to a higher truth. The doctrine of reincarnation is often understood in this light.
What Reincarnation is Not
Reincarnation is not a simple physical birth of a person; for instance, John being reborn as a cat in the next life. In this case John possesses an immortal soul which transforms to the form of a cat after his death. This cycle is repeated over and over again. Or if he is lucky, he will be reborn as a human being. This notion of the transmigration of the soul definitely does not exist in Buddhism.
Karma
Karma is a Sanskrit word from the root "Kri" to do or to make and simply means "action." It operates in the universe as the continuous chain reaction of cause and effect. It is not only confined to causation in the physical sense but also it has moral implications. "A good cause, a good effect; a bad cause a bad effect" is a common saying. In this sense karma is a moral law.
Now human beings are constantly giving off physical and spiritual forces in all directions. In physics we learn that no energy is ever lost; only that it changes form. This is the common law of conservation of energy. Similarly, spiritual and mental action is never lost. It is transformed. Thus Karma is the law of the conservation of moral energy.
By actions, thoughts, and words, man is releasing spiritual energy to the universe and he is in turn affected by influences coming in his direction. Man is therefore the sender and receiver of all these influences. The entire circumstances surrounding him is his karma.
With each action-influence he sends out and at the same time, receives, he is changing. This changing personality and the world he lives in, constitute the totality of his karma.
Karma should not be confused with fate. Fate is the notion that man's life is preplanned for him by some external power, and he has no control over his destiny. Karma on the other hand, can be changed. Because man is a conscious being he can be aware of his karma and thus strive to change the course of events. In the Dhammapada we find the following words, "All that we are is a result of what we have thought, it is founded on our thoughts and made up of our thoughts."
What we are, then, is entirely dependent on what we think. Therefore, the nobility of man's character is dependent on his"good" thoughts, actions, and words. At the same time, if he embraces degrading thoughts, those thoughts invariably influence him into negative words and actions.
The World
Traditionally, Buddhism teaches the existence of the ten realms of being. At the top is Buddha and the scale descends as follows: Bodhisattva (an enlightened being destined to be a Buddha, but purposely remaining on earth to teach others), Pratyeka Buddha (a Buddha for himself), Sravka (direct disciple of Buddha), heavenly beings (superhuman [angels?]), human beings, Asura (fighting spirits), beasts, Preta (hungry ghosts), and depraved men (hellish beings).
Now, these ten realms may be viewed as unfixed, nonobjective worlds, as mental and spiritual states of mind. These states of mind are created by men's thoughts, actions, and words. In other words, psychological states. These ten realms are "mutually immanent and mutually inclusive, each one having in it the remaining nine realms." For example, the realm of human beings has all the other nine states (from hell to Buddhahood). Man is at the same time capable of real selfishness, creating his own hell, or is truly compassionate, reflecting the compassion of Amida Buddha. Buddhas too have the other nine realms in their minds, for how can a Buddha possibly save those in hell if he himself does not identify with their suffering and guide them to enlightenment.
The Lesson
We can learn a valuable lesson from the teaching of reincarnation.
In what realm do you now live? If you are hungry for power, love, and self-recognition, you live in the Preta world, or hungry ghosts. If you are motivated only by thirsts of the human organism, you are existing in the world of the beast.
Consider well then your motives and intentions. Remember that man is characteristically placed at the midpoint of the ten stages; he can either lower himself abruptly or gradually into hell or through discipline, cultivation and the awakening of faith rise to the Enlightened state of the Buddha.
On none Religion View
Scientific Proof of Reincarnation
Dr. Ian Stevenson's Life Work
"Either he [Dr. Stevenson] is making a colossal mistake. Or he will be known as the Galileo of the 20th century." Dr Harold Lief in the Journal of Nervous and Mental Disease
Probably the best known, if not most respected, collection of scientific data that appears to provide scientific proof that reincarnation is real, is the life's work of Dr. Ian Stevenson. Instead of relying on hypnosis to verify that an individual has had a previous life, he instead chose to collect thousands of cases of children who spontaneously (without hypnosis) remember a past life. Dr. Ian Stevenson uses this approach because spontaneous past life memories in a child can be investigated using strict scientific protocols. Hypnosis, while useful in researching into past lives, is less reliable from a purely scientific perspective. In order to collect his data, Dr. Stevenson methodically documents the child's statements of a previous life. Then he identifies the deceased person the child remembers being, and verifies the facts of the deceased person's life that match the child's memory. He even matches birthmarks and birth defects to wounds and scars on the deceased, verified by medical records. His strict methods systematically rule out all possible "normal" explanations for the child’s memories.
Dr. Stevenson has devoted the last forty years to the scientific documentation of past life memories of children from all over the world. He has over 3000 cases in his files. Many people, including skeptics and scholars, agree that these cases offer the best evidence yet for reincarnation.
Dr. Stevenson's credentials are impeccable. He is a medical doctor and had many scholarly papers to his credit before he began paranormal research. He is the former head of the Department of Psychiatry at the University of Virginia, and now is Director of the Division of Personality Studies at the University of Virginia.
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Date: 11/29/11 19:48
A: Sorry for all the punishment verse above from Qu'ran or Hadith, i do not focus on that or the story. main thing is focusing only word
"transformation" that all. really apologize
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Date: 11/29/11 21:28
A: Three positions of human destiny after death
There are three possible positions that can be taken on human destiny after death. One position, the outlook of materialism. It simply denies that there is an afterlife. It holds that the human being consists of organic matter. It regards mind as a byproduct of organic matter, and after death, with the break up of the physical body, all consciousness comes to an end and the life process is completely extinguished.
The second alternative is the view held in Western theistic religions such as Judaism, Christianity and Islam in their orthodox forms. They believe in an eternal afterlife. According to these religions, we live a single life on earth and after death we live eternally in some state of existence determined by our present beliefs and conduct.
Then there is a third view, a view which prevails in the religions of the East, Hinduism and Buddhism. This is the idea of rebirth. According to this, the present life is only a simple link in a chain of lives that extends back into the past and forward into the future. This chain of lives is called samsara.
IslamThe idea of reincarnation is accepted by a few Muslim sects, particularly of the (Ghulat),[106] and by other sects in the Muslim world such as Druzes.[107] Historically, South Asian Isma'ilis performed chantas yearly, one of which is for sins committed in past lives.[108] (Aga Khan IV) Sinan ibn Salman ibn Muhammad, also known as Rashid al-Din Sinan, (r. 1162-92) subscribed to the transmigration of souls as a tenet of the Alawi,[109] who are thought to have been influenced by Isma'ilism.
Modern Sufis who embrace the idea of reincarnation include Bawa Muhaiyadeen.[110] However Hazrat Inayat Khan has criticized the idea as unhelpful to the spiritual seeker.[111
(wikipidia)
Does Islam believe in reincarnation? Most Muslims believe that Islam and reincarnation go together like vinegar and water – they don’t mix. According to the teachings of traditional Islam, the doctrine of reincarnation (Tanasukh) is not Islamic. Event though Muslims do believe in life after death, the vast majority of them believe in the resurrection and the judgment. This is the belief that each individual soul is resurrected after death and is judged according to his or her works.
Reincarnation vs. Resurrection and Judgment
While reincarnation explains why some people are born blind, handicapped, rich, poor, etc. (based upon karma from the previous life), traditional Muslims teach that Allah created the world and predetermines the various conditions of life that we’re born into as individuals in order to “test” our souls so that we may benefit. Allah then rewards everyone after they die with either an eternal afterlife in paradise or punishment in eternal hell based upon their deeds in this life on earth according to this doctrine. What’s even more interesting is that most of the traditional Muslims say that Allah knows everything including everything that will happen in the future!
Traditional Muslims argue that the doctrine of reincarnation contradicts the fundamental Islamic teaching of the resurrection and judgment. These traditionalists interpret the resurrection and judgment doctrine as dying once and being resurrected to live in heaven or hell for eternity after the judgment. But are these two doctrines really contradictory? Does the judgment and resurrection really mean what traditional Muslims interpret?
Sufism and Reincarnation
Sufism (also known as “tasawwuf”) is known as the esoteric, mystical tradition of Islam. A practitioner of Sufism is known as a “Sufi”. Sufi Muslims emphasize seeking God through direct personal experience rather than through blind faith.
According to Sufis, traditional Muslims misunderstand the resurrection and judgment doctrine. Sufis teach that the judgment and resurrection describe the continuous cycle of reincarnation as opposed to living once and being resurrected and judged accordingly.
Listed below is one example of several verses in the Quran (also spelled “Qur’an” or “Koran”) that Sufis believe support the teaching of reincarnation.
“How can you disbelieve in GOD when you were dead and He gave you life, then He puts you to death, then He brings you back to life, then to Him you ultimately return?” (2:28)
Many Sufis argue that the phrase “you were dead” clearly describes reincarnation since one would have to be alive before they could be dead. Again, this is just one of several verses in the Quran that many Islamic mystics believe support reincarnation.
Something else that’s worthy of noting in regards to reincarnation is the fact that both Muslims and Christians alike believe that Jesus will return. Traditional Muslims believe that Jesus was a mortal man and was neither killed nor crucified. If Jesus was a mortal man, in what form will he appear? His body would be over 2,000 years old if he were to return today. It’s very unlikely that Jesus will return in this same form, obviously. Could the second coming of Jesus be through reincarnation?
BUDDHISM
TEACHING OF DEPENDENT ARISING WITH REFERENCE TO
REBIRTH
Now we will explain the teaching of Dependent Arising with specific reference to the rebirth process.
First, in this life there is present in us the most basic root of all becoming, namely ignorance. Due to ignorance we perceive things in a distorted way. Due to these distortions or perversions things appear to us to be permanent, pleasurable, attractive and as our self. Due to these distortions there arises in us craving, craving for sense pleasures, for existence, for sights, sounds, smells, tastes, touch sensations and ideas. Basically there is craving for pleasant feeling. In order to experience pleasant feeling we require agreeable objects such as agreeable sights, smells etc. In order to obtain the pleasure these objects can give, we have to make contact with these objects. To contact these objects we need sense faculties that can receive the sense objects. In other words, we need the six sense faculties, eg. the eye to receive sight, the ear to receive sound, etc. In order for the sense faculties to function we need the entire psycho-physical organism, the mind-body complex.
Thus on account of craving the mind holds on to this presently existing organism so long as it lives. But when death occurs the present organism can no longer provide the basis for obtaining pleasure through the sense faculties. However, there is still the craving for the world of sights, sounds, smells, tastes, touches and ideas. So due to this craving for existence, consciousness lets go of this body and grasps hold of a new body, a fertilized egg. It lodges itself in that fertilized egg, bringing a whole storage of accumulated impressions over with it into the new psycho-physical organism. Thus we say the new being is conceived.
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Date: 11/29/11 21:57
A: CRAVING THE SEAMSTRESS
Hence the Buddha calls craving the 'seamstress'. Just as a seamstress sews together different pieces of cloth, so does craving sew together one life to another. It ties together the succession of lives. Craving is so powerful that it can bridge the gap created by death and rebuild the whole house of sentient existence again and again.
Thro’ many a birth in Sansara wandered I,
Seeking but not finding, the builder of this house. Sorrowful is repeated birth.
O House-builder! you are seen. You shall build no house again.
All your rafters are broken, your ridge-pole is shattered.
To dissolution (Nibbana) goes my mind.
The End of Craving have I attained.
Dhammapada (154)
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Date: 11/30/11 23:37
A: QU'RAN 2:28
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Transliteration Kayfa takfuroona biAllahi wakuntum amwatan faahyakum thumma yumeetukum thumma yuhyeekum thumma ilayhi turjaAAoona
Abdullah Yusuf Ali How can ye reject the faith in Allah.- seeing that ye were without life, and He gave you life; then will He cause you to die, and will again bring you to life; and again to Him will ye return.
Mufti Taqi Usmani .How is it that you deny Allah, while you were lifeless and He gave you life; then He will make you die, and then He will make you live again, and then to Him you will be returned?
Muhammad Marmaduke Pickthall How disbelieve ye in Allah when ye were dead and He gave life to you! Then he will give you death, then life again, and then unto Him ye will return.
Sahih International How can you disbelieve in Allah when you were lifeless and He brought you to life; then He will cause you to die, then He will bring you [back] to life, and then to Him you will be returned.
French Comment pouvez-vous renier Allah alors qu'Il vous a donné la vie, quand vous en étiez privés? Puis Il vous fera mourir; puis Il vous fera revivre et enfin c'est à Lui que vous retournerez.
Japanese あなたがたは-どうしてアッ-ラーを拒否出-来ようか。か-れこそは生命-のないあなた-がたに，生命-を授けられた-御方。それか-らあなたがた-を死なせ，更-に匙らせ，更-にまたかれの-御許に帰らせ-られる御方。-
Russian Как вы можете не веро-вать- в Аллаха, тогда как вы были мертвы, и Он оживил вас? Потом Он умер-твит- вас, потом оживит, а потом вы будете возвр-ащены- к Нему.
Portugese Como ousais negar a Deus, uma vez que éreis inertes e Ele vos deu a vida, depois vos fará morrer, depois vos ressuscitará e então retornais a Ele?
German Wie könnt ihr Allah leugnen, wo ihr doch tot waret und Er euch lebendig machte und euch dann sterben läßt und euch dann (am Jüngsten Tag) lebendig macht, an dem ihr zu Ihm zurückkehrt?
Name:vvk •
Date: 12/01/11 1:11
A: Reincarnation and Islam
Article by: Walter Semkiw, MD, from Born Again and Return of the Revolutionaries
Reincarnation can also be found in the teachings of Islam, a religion founded by the Prophet Mohammed. Mohammed was born in 570 A.D. into a prominent family that served as care takers of the holy site of Mecca, which tradition holds was built by Abraham. Mohammed married his employer, a businesswoman named Khaadija; Mohammed was 25 and Khaadija 40. Islam’s holy text is the Quran (or Koran), which means the “Recital” or “Reading.” In essence, the Quran is a channeled work, transmitted from God through Mohammed.
Mohammed’s first revelation occurred when he was 40 years old in 610 A.D. He then began recording verses which, over time, became the Quran. As this spiritual movement grew, Mohammed and his followers became the subjects of persecution and they had to flee Mecca in 622 A.D., taking refuge in Medina. Mohammed was a warrior as well as prophet and led his people into battle many times. Eventually Mohammed brought his followers back to Mecca, today’s shrine of Islam.
There are several references in the Quran that seem to refer to reincarnation. Let us review a few of these passages.
"And when his body falleth off altogether, as an old fish-shell, his soul doeth well by releasing, and formeth a new one instead...The person of man is only a mask which the soul putteth on for a season; it weareth its proper time and then is cast off, and another is worn in its stead." (1)
"God generates beings, and sends them back over and over again, til they return to him." (2)
"How can you make denial of Allah, who made you live again when you died, will make you dead again, and then alive again, until you finally return to him?" (3)
"God is the one who created you all, then provided you sustenance, then will cause you to die, then will bring you to life." (4)
"Surely it is God who splits the seed and the stone, bringing the living from the dead; and it is God who brings the dead from living."(5)
"I tell you, of a truth, that the spirits which now have affinity shall be kindred together, although they all meet in new persons and names." (6)
This last verse is one of my favorites seems to allude to the existence of soul groups, of people who have emotional connections returning to life with those they have known before. In addition to passages on reincarnation, the Koran also references karma:
"God does not compel a soul to do what is beyond its capacity: it gets what it has earned, and is responsible for what it deserves." (7)
"Every soul will be brought face to face with the good that it has done and with the evil it has done." (8)
"And We will set up the scales of justice for the day of reckoning. And no soul shall be wronged in anything. And be it the weight of a mustard seed, We will bring it forth: and We are well able to take account." (9)
"For We give life to the dead, and We record what they sent before and what they left after them: and We have taken account of all things." (10)
The Quran has wonderful passages that make one think in terms of the Universal Human, where religious affiliation is minimized and one’s benevolence is deemed most important. Consider the following verse:
“Indeed, be they Muslims, Jews, Sabians, or Christians, those who believe in God and the final day and who do good have nothing to fear, and they will not grieve." (11)
Mohammed cautioned against exclusionary religious practices, which in his day was aimed at the Christian Church. Mohammed’s point was that God should be the central theme in a person’s life, not the messengers or prophets who convey God’s words. The “Book” in this passage refers to the Bible.
“People of the Book, do not go to excess in your religion, do not say of God anything but truth. The Messiah, Jesus son of Mary, was only an Envoy of God and a Word of God bestowed on Mary, and a spirit of God." (12)
Jalaluddin Rumi (1207-1273), was a great Islamic and Sufi poet. Sufis are considered the esoteric holders of Islamic wisdom, much as the Kabbalists are regarded as holders of the hidden wisdom of Judaism. Rumi wrote:
"Like grass I have grown over and over again. I passed out of mineral form and lived as a plant. From plant I was lifted up to be an animal. Then I put away the animal form and took on a human shape. Why should I fear that if I died I shall be lost? For passing human form I shall attain the flowing locks and shining wings of angels. And then I shall become what no mind has ever conceived. O let me cease to exist! For non-existence only means that I shall return to Him." (13)
It is interesting to note that a Christian Church Father mused similarly about the pathway of human evolution, as did Rumi. This view suggests that the plant and animal kingdoms can serve as a stepping stone for a soul’s advancement to the stage of human development. Let us contemplate the following quotation from the Christian Church Father Synesius, Bishop of Ptolemais (370–430 AD), from his Treatise on Dreams:
“Philosophy speaks of souls being prepared by a course of transmigrations. . . When first it comes down to earth, it (the soul) embarks on this animal spirit as on a boat, and through it is brought into contact with matter." (14)
In these passages of the Islamic poet Rumi and the Christian Father Synesius, the common theme of human evolution through repeated incarnations is hypothesized and voiced.
In the section on this website entitled Soul Evolution, issues such as whether human souls ever incarnated in the animal kingdom are addressed.
Name:vvk •
Date: 12/01/11 6:36
A: Here is a no exhaustive list of all those who, through centuries, believed in reincarnation. I shall mention here only individuals, not religions universally known for their adherence to the successive rebirth principle, as the Buddhism and Hinduism. It seems that the world of before Christian era was generally reincarnationist.
The Greek
Apollonius of Tyane, philosopher,
Aristotle, philosopher,
Jamblichus, philosopher,
Plato, philosopher,
Plotinius, philosopher
Plutarch, biographer and philosopher
Pythagoras, mathematician,
Socrates, philosopher,
The Roman
Cicero, speaker, politician, philosopher,
Julian, emperor
Ovid, poet,
Virgil, poet, author of the epic poem " Aeneid "
Fathers of the church
Clement of Alexandria, Greek theologian,
Saint Augustine, bishop of Nippone,
Saint Gregory of Nyssa, bishop of Cappadocia
Saint Gregory of Nazianzen, bishop of Constantinople,
Origen, Alexandrine theologian,
The one of the famous council of Constantinople in 553
It is from this date, let's recall it that the concept of the reincarnation, as well as the one of the preexistence of the soul, were banished of teachings of the church. And the Gnostic Christians who professed these doctrines were vowed to the anathema.
The idea of the reincarnation had died for masses in West. From then on and until the half of the XIXe century, it will be favorably welcomed by philosophers, writers and some daring theologians. Yet there were some spiritual groups to perpetuate the beliefs and the ancient traditions, but most of them were pursued, slaughtered and burnt by the Inquisition, the others concealed themselves on the secret society table setting.
The mystical Orders
The Catharists, burnt,
The Templars, burnt,
The Freemasons, secret society,
The Rosicrusians, secret society,
The Renaissance
Giordano Bruno, philosopher, poet and Italian dramatist
He was condemned to the stake
Dante, Italian poet, author of the famous " Divine Comedy ",
Leonardo da Vinci, Italian painter, sculptor, inventor, etc.
William Shakespeare, poet and English dramatist
Spinoza, Dutch philosopher,
The century of Lights
Frederick the Great, king of Prussia,
Benjamin Franklin, American politician, scientist and philosopher
Goethe, German writer,
Emmanuel Kant, German philosopher,
Voltaire, French writer,
The romantic time and the modern times
Artists
Edgar Allan Poe, American poet, storyteller and critical
Honore de Balzac, French writer,
Charles Dickens, English writer,
Fiodor Dostoïevski, Russian writer,
Gustave Flaubert, French writer,
Khalil Gibran, Lebanese writer and poet
Heinrich Heine, German lyric poet and publiciste
Victor Hugo, French writer,
James Joyce, Irish poet and novelist
Rudyard Kipling, English novelist and poet
Jack London, American novelist,
Gustav Mahler, Austrian composer,
Somerset Maugham, English novelist and dramatist
Herman Melville, American writer, author of " Moby Dick ",
Henry Miller, American novelist,
Gérard de Nerval, French poet and writer
George Sand, French writer,
George Bernard Shaw, Irish writer and dramatist
Léon Tolstoï, Russian writer and dramatist
Richard Wagner, German composer,
Celebrities
The Dalaï Lama, 14th of the name, spiritual chief of the Tibetan Buddhism,
Henry Ford, American businessman,
Gandhi, Indian politician and apostle of non-violence
Charles Lindbergh, American aviator,
Shirley Mc Laine, American actress, author of several books on the reincarnation
George S. Patton, American general, hero of World War II,
Elizabeth of Wittelbach " Sissi ", Empress of Austria
Scientists
Thomas Edison, American inventor,
Camille Flammarion, French astronomer,
Carl Jung, Swiss psychologist and psychiatrist
J. B. Rhine, American parapsychologist,
It is his that one owes " Rhine " cards used for experiences of telepathy
Ian Stevenson, psychiatrist and American parapsychologist
Author of the work " 20 cases suggestive of reincarnation "
Insiders
Edgar Cayce, famous American clairvoyant,
Aron Abrahamsen, American engineer and clairvoyant,
Norwegian native
Helena P. Blavatsky, founder of the theosophical society
Allan Kardec, founder of the spiritist society
Rudolf Steiner, founder of anthroposophical movement
Gérard Encausse " Papus ", French doctor and occultist
Name:vvk •
Date: 12/01/11 6:49
A: According to Buddhism if a human does not obtain nirvana or enlightenment, as it is known, the person cannot escape the cycle of death and rebirth. In Buddhist literature, it is stated that persons who have reached the Devalokas would develop an aloofness from wordly attachments. However, liberated souls living in the higher heavens could come down to earth and communicate with spiritually advanced people. The plane immediately below the human is that of animals and below it is other planes Niraya, Asura and Peta which are described as unhappy states of existence. Beings are born Petas as a result of greed and attachment to their worldly belongings and are drawn to the place of attachment. Buddhism tells of many hells, of which Avîci is the most terrible. They are of course all temporary and therefore purgatories rather than places of eternal punishment and the beings that inhabit them have the power of struggling upwards and acquiring merit, but the task is difficult and one may be born repeatedly in hell. The phraseology of Buddhism calls existences in heavens and hells new births. In Buddhism there are 37 different levels of heaven where beings experience peace and long lasting happiness without suffering in the heavenly environment.
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Date: 12/01/11 22:18
A: ON CHRISTIAN VIEW
Christianity Though the major Christian denominations reject the concept of reincarnation, a large number of Christians profess the belief. In a survey by the Pew Forum in 2009, 24% of American Christians expressed a belief in reincarnation. In a 1981 Survey in Europe 31% of regular churchgoing Catholics expressed a belief in reincarnation.
Geddes MacGregor, an Episcopalian priest who is Emeritus Distinguished Professor of Philosophy at the University of Southern California, Fellow of the Royal Society of Literature, a recipient of the California Literature Award (Gold Medal, non-fiction category), and the first holder of the Rufus Jones Chair in Philosophy and Religion at Bryn Mawr, demonstrates in his book Reincarnation in Christianity: A New Vision of the Role of Rebirth in Christian Thought, that Christian doctrine and reincarnation are not mutually exclusive belief systems.
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Wisdom of the West: The Bible - New Testament & the Teachings of Jesus
"As Jesus passed by, he saw a man who was blind from his birth. So his disciples asked him, saying, 'Master, who did sin, this man, or his parents, that he was born blind?' Jesus answered, Neither hath this man sinned, nor his parents: but the works of God should be made manifest in him."
- Bible: John (9:1-3) (implying the man had to have lived before to be born blind)
"The Jews unto him, 'Thou art not yet fifty years old, and hast thou seen Abraham? ' Jesus said unto them, 'Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.'"
- Bible: John (8:58) (implying that Jesus was eternal having lived before)
"And from the days of John the Baptist until now the kingdom of heaven suffereth violence, and the violent take it by force. For all the prophets and the law prophesied until John. And if ye will receive it, this is Elias, which was for to come. He that hath ears, let him hear."
- Bible: Matthew (11:12-14) (implying John the Baptist was the reincarnation of the prophet Elias)
"No honest theologian therefore can deny that his acceptance of Jesus as Christ logically binds every Christian to a belief in reincarnation - in Elias case (who was later John the Baptist) at least."
- Robert Graves
"For the children being not yet born, neither having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works, but of him that calleth; It was said unto her, The elder shall serve the younger. As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have hated."
- Bible: Romans (9:13) (implying that God must have hated Esau for what Esau did in a past life)
"Behold, I shew you a mystery. We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed. In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality. So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up... O death, where is thy sting? O grave, where is thy victory?"
- Bible: 1 Corinthians (15:51-55) (stating the immortality of Soul)
"Souls are poured from one into another of different kinds of bodies of the world."
- Jesus Christ: Gnostic Gospels: Pistis (Knowledge) Sophia (Wisdom)
"'I shall give you what no eye has seen, what no ear has heard, what no hand has touched, and what has never arisen in a human mind." So the disciples said to Jesus, 'Tell us about the end.' Jesus said, 'Have you already discovered the beginning that now you can seek after the end? For where the beginning is, the end will be. Blessed is the one who stands at the beginning: that one will know the end and will not taste death. Blessed is the one who came to life before coming to life.'"
- Jesus Christ: Gnostic Gospels: Gospel of Thomas (Saying 18-19)
"Our Lord has written the promise of the resurrection, not in books alone but in every leaf in springtime… In our sad condition our only consolation is the expectancy of another life."
- Martin Luther
"In the midst of life we are in death. Earth to earth, ashes to ashes, dust to dust; in sure and certain hope of the Resurrection into eternal life . . . "
- Book of Common Prayer (The Burial of the Dead (1662))
Wisdom of the West: The Bible - Old Testament & Teachings of Prophets
"Then the word of the Lord came unto me, saying, 'Before I formed thee in the belly, I knew thee; and before thou camest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee, and I ordained thee a prophet unto the nations'…"
- Bible: Jeremiah (1:4-5) (implying that God knew Jeremiah in a past life)
"And when the sons of the prophets which were to view at Jericho saw him, they said 'The spirit of Elijah doth rest on Elisha'. And they came to meet him and bowed themselves to the ground before him."
- Bible: 2 Kings(2:15) (implying that Elisha was the reincarnation of Elijah)
"For a thousand years in thy sight are but as yesterday when it is past, and as a watch in the night. Thou carriest them away as with a flood; they are as a sleep: in the morning they are like grass which groweth up."
- Bible: Psalms (90:2-5) (implying the cycle of reincarnation)
"For behold, this is my work and my glory - to bring to pass the immortality and eternal life of man."
- Bible: Moses (1:39) (stating the immortality of Soul)
"Thy dead men shall live, together with my dead body shall they arise. Awake and sing, ye that dwell in dust: for thy dew is as the dew of herbs, and the earth shall cast out the dead."
- Bible: Isaiah (26:19) (stating the immortality of Soul)
"And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt."
- Bible: Daniel (12:2) (stating the immortality of Soul)
"Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out."
- Bible: Revelations (3:12) ("out" implying out into the world of birth & death)
"The souls must reenter the absolute from where they have emerged. They must develop all the perfections; the germ of which is planted in them; and if they have not fulfilled this condition during one life; they must commence another… until they have acquired the condition that fits them for reunion with God."
- Kabbalah (Zohar)
"The 'soul' is the bridge between the spirit and the personality. Pure spiritual energy is individualized through the soul before it enters the personality. This is partly to protect the personality from too great an influx of undiluted spiritual energy which could 'blow it out'. This is partly to individualize the energy for the lessons of the incarnation of that particular Soul."
- The New Living Qabalah (Kabbalah as arranged by Will Parfitt)
"Reincarnation is assumed in the Bible teaching..."
- Dictionary of All Scriptures and Myths
Wisdom of the East: The Bhagavad Gita and Buddha
"Reincarnation is not an exclusively Hindu or Buddhist concept, but it is part of the history of human origin. It is proof of the mindstream's capacity to retain knowledge of physical and mental activities. It is related to the theory of interdependent origination and to the law of cause and effect."
- The Dalai Lama (from the Preface to "The Case for Reincarnation")
Krishna says: "I produce myself among creatures whenever there is a decline in virtue and an insurrection of vice and injustice in the world ; and thus I incarnate from age to age, for the preservation of the just, the destruction of the wicked, and the establishment of righteousness."
- Bhagavad Gita (Song Celestial: 6)
"Learn thou! the Life is, spreading life through all;
It cannot anywhere, by any means,
Be anywise diminished, stayed, or changed.
But for these fleeting frames which it informs with spirit deathless, endless, infinite,
They perish. Let them perish, Prince! and fight!
He who shall say, "Lo! I have slain a man!" He who shall think, "Lo! I am slain!"
Those both know naught! Life cannot slay. Life is not slain!
- Bhagavad Gita (The Song Celestial: 2)
"Impenetrable, unentered, unassailed, unharmed, untouched, immortal,
all-arriving, stable, sure, invisible, ineffable, by word and thought uncompassed,
ever all itself, Thus is the Soul declared!
How wilt thou, then,- Knowing it so,- grieve when thou shouldst not grieve?
How, if thou hearest that the man new-dead is,
like the man new-born, still living man-
One same, existent Spirit- wilt thou weep?
The end of birth is death; the end of death is birth:
this is ordained! and mournest thou,
Chief of the stalwart arm! for what befalls which could not otherwise befall…
What is there sorrowful herein, dear Prince?"
- Bhagavad Gita (The Song Celestial: 2)
"To be born here and to die here, to die here and to be born elsewhere,
To be born there and to die there, to die there and to be born elsewhere -
That is the round of existence."
- Buddhist Text: Milinda's Questions 77
"Samsara-the Wheel of Existence, literally, the "Perpetual Wandering"-is the name by which is designated the sea of life ever restlessly heaving up and down, the symbol of this continuous process of ever again and again being born, growing old, suffering, and dying. (It) is constantly changing from moment to moment, (as lives) follow continuously one upon the other through inconceivable periods of time. Of this Samsara, a single lifetime constitutes only a vanishingly tiny fraction."
- Gautama Buddha
"Whenever I am born in every life to come, may I meet again my Guardian Angel of this life! Speaking and understanding the moment I am born, may I… remember my former lives!"
- The Tibetan Book of the Dead
"Birth and death are doors through which you pass from one dream to another. Someone is born on Earth in France as a powerful king, rules for a time, then dies. He may be reborn in India, and travel in a bullock cart into the forest to meditate. He may next find rebirth in America as a successful businessman. When he dreams death again, reincarnates perhaps in Tibet as a devotee of Buddha and spends his entire life in a lamasery. Therefore hate none and be attached to no nationality, for sometimes you are a Hindu, sometimes a Frenchman, sometimes an Englishman, or an American or a Tibetan... Each existence is a dream within a dream, is it not?"
- Paramhansa Yogananda (Divine Romance)
Wisdom of the East: The Upanishads and Others
"Ignorant ones, due to their own attachment toward wealth and enjoyment, get deluded and blinded… Such foolish ones come under my Rod again and again by revolving in the birth-death cycle… For the Self… does not die when the body dies. Concealed in the heart of all beings lies the 'atma', the Spirit, the Self; smaller than the smallest atom, greatest that the greatest spaces."
- Katha Upanishad
"The soul is not born; it does not die; it was not produced from anyone... Unborn, eternal, it is not slain, though the body is slain."
- Katha Upanisad (as quoted by Emerson)
"To attain to the human form must always be a source of joy. And then to undergo continuous transitions, with only the infinite to look forward to: what incomparable bliss is that!"
- Lao Tse (Tao Te Ch'ing)
"The transformation toward eternal life is gradual. The heavy gross energy of body, mind, and spirit must first be purified and uplifted. When the energy ascends… then self mastery can be sought."
- Lao Tse (Hua Hu Ch'ing: 71)
"And Allah hath caused you to spring forth from the Earth like a plant;
Hereafter will He turn you back into it again, and bring you forth anew."
-Koran (Sura 71:17-18)
"And you were dead, and He brought you back to life. And He shall cause you to die, and shall bring you back to life, and in the end shall gather you unto Himself."
- Koran (Surat Al-Baqarah 2:28)
"God generates beings, and sends them back over and over again, till they return to Him."
- Koran
Wisdom of the New Age: Modern Wisdom for Modern Times
"…the individual Soul is constantly reborn into the world, rising or falling in fortune according to Its deed and their consequences, which is karma… Until it awakens to full self knowledge, Soul may undergo reincarnations for long periods of time, touching the highest possibilities of pleasure and the lowest depths of pain…"
- Shariyat-Ki-Sugmad (Eckankar: Book 2)
Those in India "will never speak of bodily wants as theirs: they say 'My body is hungry', 'My body is tired', not 'I am hungry' or 'I am tired'… It is truer to the facts than our self-identification with our body. If we were in the habit of identifying ourselves in thought, not with the habitation we live in but with the Human self, that dwells therein, life would become a greater and serener thing. We should brush off troubles as we brush the dust from garments, and we should realize the measure of all things happening to us is not the pain or pleasure they bring to our bodies, but the progress or retardation they bring to the Human within us. And since all things are matters of experience and lessons may be learned from each, we should take the sting out of griefs by searching in each for the wisdom enwrapped in it as the petals are folded within the bud."
- Annie Besant
"All life changes its aspect when reincarnation becomes a settled conviction, beyond all argument, raised above all dispute. Each day of life but one page in the great drama of existence; each sorrow but a fleeting shadow cast by a passing cloud; each joy but a gleam of sunshine reflected from a swinging mirror; each death but the moving from a worn-out house. The strength of an eternal youth begins slowly to pass into the awakening life; the calmness of a vast serenity broods over the tossing waves of human thought. The radiant glory of the immortal Intelligence pierces the thick dusky clouds of matter, and the imperishable Peace that nought can ruffle sheds its pure whiteness over the triumphant spirit."
- Annie Besant
"That which is part of our souls is eternal... Those lives are countless, but the soul or spirit that animates us throughout these myriads of existences is the same; and though "the book and volume" of the physical brain may forget events within the scope of one life, the bulk of collective recollections can never desert the divine soul within us. Its whispers may be too soft, the sound of its words too far off the plane perceived by our physical senses; yet the shadow of events that were, just as much as the shadow of the events that are to come, is within its perceptive powers, and is ever present before its mind's eye."
- Helena Blavatsky (Theosophy: Secret Doctrine)
From the Great and Near Great: "You'll Be Back... Again"
"A list of brilliant thinkers, who intuited and taught the doctrine of rebirth is virtually endless. Let us name a few: Plato, Pythagoras, Origen, Augustine, Philo Judaeus, Paracelsus, Boehme, Spinoza, Leibniz, Schopenhauer, Goethe, Leonardo da Vinci, Bruno, Kant, Blake, Schiller, Emerson, Thoreau, Whitman, Browning, Flaubert, Wagner, Tolstoy, Kipling, Sibelius, McTaggart, Gandhi", and Franklin.
- Felicity Eliot (from "What Reincarnation could have Done for History")
"The choice of souls was in most cases based on their own experience of a previous life… Knowledge easily acquired is that which the enduing self had in an earlier life, so that it flows back easily."
- Plato
"Souls never die, but always on quitting one abode pass to another. All things change, nothing perishes. The soul passes hither and thither, occupying now this body, now that... As a wax is stamped with certain figures, then melted, then stamped anew with others, yet it is always the same wax. So, the Soul being always the same, yet wears at different times different forms."
- Pythagoras
"It can be shown that an incorporeal and reasonable being has life in itself independently of the body... then it is beyond a doubt bodies are only of secondary importance and arise from time to time to meet the varying conditions of reasonable creatures. Those who require bodies are clothed with them, and contrariwise, when fallen souls have lifted themselves up to better things their bodies are once more annihilated. They are ever vanishing and ever reappearing."
- Origen
"Did my infancy succeed another age of mine that dies before it? Was it that which I spent within my mother's womb?... And what before that life again, O God of my joy, was I anywhere or in any body?"
- Augustine (Confessions)
"The air is full of souls those who are nearest to earth descending to be tied to mortal bodies return to other bodies, desiring to live in them."
- Philo Judaeus
"Some children are born from heaven and others are born from hell, because each human being has his inherent tendencies, and these tendencies belong to his spirit, and indicate the state in which he existed before he was born."
- Paracelsus
"What kind of spiritual triumph it was I can neither write nor speak; it can only be compared with that where life is born in the midst of death, and is like the resurrection of the dead."
- Jacob Boehme
"We feel and know that we are eternal."
- Benedict De Spinoza
"Of what use would it be to you, sir, to become King of China on condition that you forgot what you have been? Would it not be the same as if God, at the same time he destroyed you, created a King in China?"
- Gottfried Leibniz
"Were an Asiatic to ask me for a definition of Europe, I should be forced to answer him: It is that part of the world which is haunted by the incredible delusion that man was created out of nothing, and that his present birth is his first entrance into life."
- Arthur Schopenhauer
"The soul of man is like to water; from Heaven it cometh, to Heaven it riseth…
And then returning to earth, forever alternating."
- Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
"Our life is made by the death of others."
- Leonardo da Vinci
"By birth and growth the spirit-architect expands into this mass of which we consist, spreading outwards from the heart. Thither again it withdraws, winding up the threads of its web, returning by the same path along which it advanced, passed out by the same gate through which it entered. Birth is expansion of the center... death contraction to the center. It is the soul that gathers about it, groups and vivifies the mass. The soul is not the body and it may be in one body or in another, and pass from body to body."
- Giordano Bruno
"If we could see ourselves... as we really are, we should see ourselves in a world of spiritual natures, our community which neither began at birth nor will end with the death of the body."
- Immanuel Kant
"I see the Past, Present, and Future existing all at once before me..."
- William Blake
"Full of wisdom are the ordinations of fate."
- Friedrich Schiller
"The soul comes from without into the human body, as into a temporary abode, and it goes out of it anew... it passes into other habitations, for the soul is immortal."
- Ralph Waldo Emerson
"As far back as I can remember I have unconsciously referred to the experiences of a previous state of existence."
- Henry David Thoreau
"I know I am deathless. No doubt I have died myself ten thousand times before. I laugh at what you call dissolution, and I know the amplitude of time."
- Walt Whitman
"Rejoice that man is hurled, From change to change unceasingly, His soul's wings never furled!"
- Robert Browning
"It seems to me... that I have always lived! I possess memories that go back to the Pharoahs. I see myself very clearly at different ages of history, practicing different professions... My present personality is the result of my lost [past] personalities."
- Gustave Flaubert
"In contrast to reincarnation and karma, all other views appear petty and narrow."
- Richard Wagner
"The soul is immortal- well then, if I shall always live, I must have lived before, lived for a whole eternity."
- Leo Tolstoy
"As I pass through my incarnations in every age and race... and the hearts of the meanest were humbled."
- Rudyard Kipling
"Millions of years ago, in my previous incarnations, I must have been related to swans... because I can still feel that affinity."
- Jean Sibelius
"There are so many things that are incompatible with a single life. No one can learn fully in one life the lessons of unbroken health and of bodily sickness, of riches and of poverty, of study and action, of comradeship and isolation, of defiance and of obedience, of virtue and of vice."
- John McTaggart
"I cannot think of permanent enmity between man and man, and believing as I do in the theory of reincarnation, I live in the hope that if not in this birth, in some other birth I shall be able to hug all of humanity in friendly embrace."
- Mohandas K. Gandhi
"When I see nothing annihilated, and not even a drop of water wasted, I cannot suspect the annihilation of souls… Thus finding myself to exist in the world, I believe I shall, in some shape or other, always exist; with all the inconveniences human life is liable to, I shall not object to a new edition of mine; hoping, however, that the errata of the last may be corrected."
- Benjamin Franklin
From the Great and Near Great: "It is a Cultural Viewpoint"
"The idea of a succession of lives for each human creature would be no more debatable to the average Hindu than a Westerner's fixed belief that the continuity from childhood to adulthood exists in a single life."
- Nancy Ross
"I am no Hindu, but I hold the doctrine of the Hindus concerning a future state (rebirth) to be incomparably more rational, more pious, and more likely to deter men from vice than the horrid opinions inculcated by Christians on punishments without end." [Like eternal Hell for example! - EM]
- William Jones
"The theory of Reincarnation, which originated in India, has been welcomed in other countries. Without doubt, it is one of the most sensible and satisfying of all religions that mankind has conceived. This, like the others, comes from the best qualities of human nature, even if in this, as in the others, its adherents sometimes fail to carry out the principles in their lives."
- Luther Burbank
"You see that who you are isn't moving in time. Time is describing the incarnations, the packing changes."
- Ram Dass
"This doctrine of transmigration or reincarnation of the soul is found among many tribes of savages…"
- James George Frazer
The Celts were fearless warriors because "they wish to inculcate this as one of their leading tenets, that souls do not become extinct, but pass after death from one body to another..."
- Julius Caesar
"Rebirth is an affirmation that must be counted among the primordial affirmations of mankind. The concept of rebirth necessarily implies the continuity of personality. Here the human personality is regarded as continuous and accessible to memory, so that, when one is incarnated or born, one is able, potentially, to remember that one has lived through previous existences, and that these existences were one's own, ie, they had the same ego form as the present life. As a rule, reincarnation means rebirth in a human body."
- Carl G. Jung
"The origin of the philosophy of reincarnation is prehistoric. It antedates antiquity all over the world."
- E. D. Walker
"If I were reincarnated, I'd want to come back a buzzard. Nothing hates him or envies him or wants him or needs him. He is never bothered or in danger, and he can eat anything."
- William Faulkner (Writers at Work)
"It is conceivable that I might well be reborn as a Chinese coolie. In such case I should lodge a protest."
- Winston Churchill
"The little babies are missing their families from their past lives. The babies have old souls and the old souls have to shrink to become little babies. The tears loosen their memories so they can slide away. They cry at the life they have lost, and then they cry at everything they'll forget."
- Akhil Sharma (An Obedient Father)
"Know, therefore, that from the greater silence I shall return… Forget not that I shall come back to you… A little while, a moment of rest upon the wind, and another woman shall bear me."
- Kahlil Gibran
"Who says the eternal being does not exist? Who says the sun has gone out? Someone who climbs up on the roof and closes his eyes tight, and says, I don't see anything."
- Jalalu'l-din Rumi
"A person whose life's vision is limited to this one fleeting incarnation is like the plow horse which views it's life's work as a single furrow. Not able to appreciate how one furrow blends with the many others. Not able to understand why there are rocks in the furrow. Not able to why the furrow is so hard to plow."
- Bryan Jameison
"I realized that Eastern thought had somewhat more compassion for all living things. Man was a form of life that in another reincarnation might possibly be a horsefly or a bird of paradise or a deer. So a man of such faith, looking at animals, might be looking at old friends or ancestors."
- William Orville Douglas
"I’m a great believer in the hereafter, in karma, in reincarnation. It does make sense. I believe that God is not just a law-giver, but a creative artist. The greatest of all. And what characterises artists is that they want to redo their work. Maybe it didn’t come off perfectly, so they want to see it done again, and improved. Reincarnation is a way for God to improve his earlier works."
- Norman Mailer
"I think immortality is the passing of a soul through many lives... such as are truly lived, used, and learned, help on to the next, each growing richer, happier, and higher, carrying with it only the real memories that have gone before."
- Louisa May Alcott
"We all have some experience of a feeling, that comes over us occasionally, of what we are saying and doing having been said and done before, in a remote time - of our having been surrounded, dim ages ago, by the same faces, objects, and circumstances."
- Charles Dickens (David Copperfield)
"Has it occurred to you that transmigration is at once an explanation and a justification of the evil of the world? If the evils we suffer are the result of sins committed in our past lives, we can bear them with resignation and hope that if in this one we strive toward virtue our future lives will be less afflicted."
- W Somerset Maugham
"Friends are all souls that we've known in other lives. We're drawn to each other. That's how I feel about friends. Even if I have only known them a day, it doesn't matter. I'm not going to wait till I have known them for two years, because anyway, we must have met somewhere before, you know."
- George Harrison
"Reincarnation is making a comeback."
- British Slogan
From the Great and Near Great: "I Remember Me... From Before"
"I have been born more times than anybody except Krishna."
- Mark Twain
"So as through a glass and darkly, the age long strife I see,
Where I fought in many guises, many names, but always me."
- George S. Patton
"I am confident that there truly is such a thing as living again, that the living spring from the dead, and that the souls of the dead are in existence."
- Socrates
"I am certain that I have been here as I am now a thousand times before, and I hope to return a thousand times."
- Thomas Huxley
"... I am the same personal being who in old times upon the Earth had those experiences."
- William James (Human Immortality)
"Even such is Time which takes all in trust: Our youth, our joys, our all we have,
And pays us but with age and dust. Who in the dark and silent grave,
When we have wandered all our ways, shuts up the story of our days.
But from this Earth, this grave, this dust, The Lord shall raise me up, I trust."
- Walter Raleigh (written on the night before his execution)
"It is the secret of the world that all things subsist and do not die, but only retire a little from sight and afterwards return again. Nothing is dead; men feign themselves dead, and endure mock funerals… and there they stand looking out of the window, sound and well, in some strange new disguise."
- Ralph Waldo Emerson
"As the stars looked to me when I was a shepherd in Assyria, they look to me now as a New-Englander."
- Henry David Thoreau
"I am by nature the most intolerant and insular Englishman... If you happen to be a person like that and you learn from evidence (which you are prepared to accept) that in the past you have been a Chinese, an Egyptian, a Persian, a Red Indian... you begin to assume a somewhat less exclusive view of these our fellow men."
- Hugh Dowding
"This life is only one of a series of lives which our incarnated part has lived. I have little doubt of our having pre-existed; and that also in the time of our pre-existence we were actively employed. So, therefore, I believe in our active employment in a future life, and I like the thought."
- Charles "Chinese" Gordon
"I did not begin when I was born, nor when I was conceived. I have been growing, developing, through incalculable myriads of millenniums... All my previous selves have their voices, echoes, promptings in me... Oh, incalculable times again shall I be born."
- Jack London (Star Rover)
"Reincarnation is implicit in the manifested universe and is a basic and fundamental."
- Alice A. Bailey
"It is no more surprising to be born once than to be born twice: everything in nature is resurrection."
- Francois Voltaire
"The virtuous shall have the power to revive and live again. All pure and holy spirits live on in heavenly places, and in course of time they are again sent down to inhabit righteous bodies"
- Josephus
"The bodies of all men are, indeed, mortal, and are created out of corruptible matter; but the soul is ever immortal, and is a portion of the divinity that inhabits our bodies... Do you not know, that those who depart out of this life according to the laws of nature... enjoy eternal fame; that their houses and posterity are sure; that their souls are pure and obedient, and obtain a most holy place in heaven, from whence, in the revolution of ages, they are again sent... into bodies; while the souls of those whose hands have acted madly against themselves are received by the darkest place in Hades?"
- Josephus
"Our birth is but a sleep and a forgetting; The Soul that rises with us, our life's star,
Hath elsewhere its setting, and cometh from afar, not in entire forgetfulness,
And not in utter nakedness, but trailing clouds of glory do we come
From God who is our home. Heaven lies about us in our infancy!
- William Wordsworth
"I am certain that I have been here as I am now a thousand times before, and I hope to return a thousand times."
- Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
From the Great and Near Great: Evidence You Have Been Here Before
"The most promising evidence bearing on reincarnation seems to come from the spontaneous cases, especially among children."
- Ian Stevenson
"It is a strong proof of men knowing most things before birth, that when mere children they grasp innumerable facts with such speed as to show that they are not then taking them in for the first time, but are remembering and recalling them."
- Marcus Tullius Cicero
"Have you never observed that children will sometimes, of a sudden, give utterance to ideas which makes us wonder how they got possession of them? Which presuppose a long series of other ideas and secret self-communings? Which break forth like a full stream out of the earth, an infallible sign that the stream was not produced in a moment from a few raindrops, but had long been flowing concealed beneath the ground?"
- J. G. Herder
"I have been here before, but when or how I cannot tell:
I know the grass beyond the door,
The sweet keen smell, the sighing sound, the lights around the shore.
You have been mine before - How long ago I may not know:
But just when at that swallow's soar, your neck turned so,
Some veil did fall, - I knew it all of yore."
- Dante Gabriel Rossetti
"Live so that thou mayest desire to live again - that is thy duty - for in any case thou wilt live again!"
- Freidrich Nietzsche
"As death, when we come to consider it closely, is the true goal of our existence. I have formed during the last few years such close relations with this best and truest friend of mankind, that his image is not only no longer terrifying to me, but is very soothing and consoling! I thank my God for graciously granting me the opportunity of learning that death is the key which unlocks the door to our true happiness."
- Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart
(a child prodigy who believed his genius came from past lives -EM)
"The soul, still a dragged captive, will tell of all the man did and felt; but upon death there will appear, as time passes, memories of the lives lived before, some of the events of the most recent life being dismissed as trivial. As it grows away from the body, it will revive things forgotten in the corporeal state. And if it passes in and out of one body after another, it will tell over the events of the discarded life. It will treat as present that which it has just left, and it will remember much from the former existence. But with lapse of time it will come to forgetfulness of many things that were mere accretion. "
- Plotinus
"Reincarnation contains a most comforting explanation of reality by means of which Indian thought surmounts difficulties which baffle the thinkers of Europe."
- Albert Schweitzer
"You would know the hidden realm where all souls dwell.
The journey's way lies through death's misty fell.
Within this timeless passage, a guiding light does dance.
Lost from conscious memory but visible in trance."
- Michael Newton (Journey of Souls)
"He saw all these forms and faces in a thousand relationships... become newly born. Each one was mortal, a passionate, painful example of all that is transitory. Yet none of them died, they only changed, were always reborn, continually had a new face: only time stood between one face and another."
- Herman Hesse (Siddhartha)
"As we live through thousands of dreams in our present life, so is our present life only one of many thousands of such lives which we enter from the other more real life... and then return after death. Our life is but one of the dreams of that more real life, and so it is endlessly, until the very last one, the very real life of God."
- Leo Tolstoy
"'Do you have any idea how many lives we must have gone through before we even got the first idea that there is more to life than eating, or fighting, or power in the Flock? A thousand lives, Jon, ten thousand!... We choose our next world though what we learn in this one... But you, Jon, learned so much at one time that you didn't have to go through a thousand lives to reach this one.'"
- Richard Bach (Jonathan Livingston Seagull)
"Let us face it: 'deep down' nobody in his right mind can visualize his own existence without assuming that he has always lived and will live hereafter."
- Erik Erikson
Bede writes: "a man from the province of Northumbria returns from the dead... 'A handsome man in a shining robe was my guide... He said to me... 'You must now return to your body and live among men once more; but, if you will weigh your actions with greater care and study to keep your words and ways virtuous and simple, then when you die you too will win a home among these happy spirits that you see'... I was most reluctant to return to my body ...but I did not dare to question my guide. Meanwhile, I know not how, I suddenly found myself alive among men once more.' ...inspired by an insatiable longing for the blessings of heaven, and by his words and by his life, he helped many people to salvation."
-Bede (History of the English Church and People)
...(The earliest recorded instance of the Near Death Phenomenon: 731 AD -EM)
From the Great and Near Great: You are a Soul, You Have a Body
"Every new born being indeed comes fresh and blithe into the new existence, and enjoys it as a free gift: but there is, and can be, nothing freely given. It's fresh existence is paid for by the old age and death of a worn out existence which has perished, but which contained the indestructible seed out of which the new existence has arisen: they are one being."
- Arthur Schopenhauer
"Why should it be thought incredible that the same soul should inhabit in succession an indefinite number of moral bodies? Even during this one life our bodies are perpetually changing, through a process of decay and restoration; which is so gradual that it escapes our notice. Every human being thus dwells successively in many bodies, even during one short life."
- Francis Bowen (Christian Metempsychosis)
"As long as you are not aware of the continual law of Die and Be Again, you are merely a vague guest on a dark Earth."
- Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
"There is no death. How can there be death if everything is part of the Godhead? The soul never dies and the body is never really alive."
- Isaac Bashevis Singer
"He who fears death either fears the loss of sensation or a different kind of sensation. But if thou shalt have no sensation, neither wilt thou feel any harm; and if thou shalt acquire another kind of sensation, thou wilt be a different kind of living being and thou wilt not cease to live."
- Marcus Aurelius
"I hold that when a person dies, his Soul returns again to earth;
Arrayed in some new flesh-disguise, another mother gives him birth.
With sturdier limbs and brighter brain, the old Soul takes the road again."
- John Masefield
"My whole belief system is that our paths are drawn for us. I believe in reincarnation. I believe we're here to learn and grow. We choose how we come into this life based on what it is we have to learn. Some people have harder lessons than others."
- Gillian Anderson
"It appears to me impossible that I should cease to exist, or that this active, restless spirit, equally alive to joy and sorrow, should be only organized dust -- ready to fly abroad the moment the spring snaps, or the spark goes out, which kept it together. Surely something resides in this heart that is not perishable -- and life is more than a dream."
- Mary Wollstonecraft
"Though I may not be a king in my future life, so much the better: I shall nevertheless live an active life and, on top of it, earn less ingratitude."
- Frederick the Great
"I am in exact accord with the belief of Thomas Edison that spirit is immortal, that there is a continuing center of character in each personality. But I don’t know what spirit is, nor matter either. I suspect they are forms of the same thing. I never could see anything in this reputed antagonism between spirit and matter. To me this is the most beautiful, the most satisfactory from a scientific standpoint, the most logical theory of life."
- Henry Ford
"All changes, even the most longed for, have their melancholy; for what we leave behind is a part of ourselves; we must die to one life before we can enter another."
- Anatole France
"All human beings go through a previous life... Who knows how many fleshly forms the heir of heaven occupies before he can be brought to understand the value of silence and solitude whose starry plains are but the vestibule of spiritual worlds?"
- Honore Balzac
"Every incarnation that we remember must increase our comprehension of ourselves as who we are."
- Aleister Crowley
"The doctrine of transmigration... was a means of constructing a plausible vindication of the ways of the cosmos to man; ...none but very hasty thinkers will reject it on the grounds of inherent absurdity."
- Thomas Huxley
"The soul is not the body and it may be in one body or in another, and pass from body to body."
- Giordano Bruno
"I have a body and I am more than my body.
I have emotions and I am more than my emotions.
I have a mind and I am more than my mind.
I am a center of pure consciousnessness and energy."
- The New Living Qabalah (Kabbalah as arranged by Will Parfitt)
From the Great and Near Great: As Soul, You Are Eternal
"I feel my immortality over sweep all pains, all tears, all time, all fears, - and peal, like the eternal thunders of the deep, into my ears, this truth, - thou livest forever!"
- George Gordon, Byron
"I adopted the theory of reincarnation when I was 26 [years old]. Genius is experience. Some seem to think that it is a gift or talent, but it is the fruit of long experience in many [past] lives."
- Henry Ford
"Many cultures have independently developed a belief system in reincarnation that includes return of the unit of consciousness to another physical lifetime on Earth. Whether or not we believe in survival of consciousness after death, reincarnation, and karma, it has very serious implications for our behavior."
- Stanislav Grof
"Why should we be startled by death? Life is a constant putting off of the mortal coil - coat, cuticle, flesh and bones, all old clothes."
- Henry David Thoreau
"I know I am deathless... We have thus far exhausted trillions of winters and summers, There are trillions ahead, and trillions ahead of them."
- Walt Whitman
"Everything science has taught me strengthens my belief in the continuity of our spiritual existence after death. I believe in an immortal soul. Science has proved that nothing disintegrates into nothingness. Life and soul, therefore, cannot disintegrate into nothingness, and so are immortal."
- Werner Von Braun
"George Sand believed very firmly in the immortality of the soul. On losing any of her family, the certainty of going to them some day was her great consolation. 'I see future and eternal life before me as a certainty,' she said; 'it is like a light, and, thanks to its brilliancy, other things cannot be seen; but the light is there, and that is all I need.' Her belief was in the existence of God, the goodness of Providence and the immortality of the soul. George Sand was an adept in natural religion."
- Rene Doumic
"When the physical organism breaks up, the soul survives. It then takes on another body."
- Paul Gauguin
"My life often seemed to me like a story that has no beginning and no end. I had the feeling that I was an historical fragment, an excerpt for which the preceding and succeeding text was missing. I could well imagine that I might have lived in former centuries and there encountered questions I was not yet able to answer; that I had been born again because I had not fulfilled the task given to me."
- Carl Jung
"It's so silly. All you do is get the heck out of your body when you die. My gosh, everybody's done it thousands of times. Just because they don't remember, it doesn't mean they haven't done it."
- J D Salinger
"For thirty years I have leaned toward the theory of Reincarnation. It seems a most reasonable philosophy and explains many things. No, I have no desire to know what, or who I was once; or what, or who, I shall be in the ages to come. This belief in immortality makes present living the more attractive. It gives you all the time there is. You will always be able to finish what you start. There is no fever or strain in such an outlook. We are here in life for one purpose: to get experience. We are all getting it, and we shall all use it somewhere."
- Henry Ford
"Some people believe that we go on living in another body after death, that we lived before. They call it reincarnation. That we all lived before on the earth thousands of years ago or on some other planet. They say we have forgotten it. Some say they remember their past lives."
- James Joyce
"I look upon death to be as necessary to the constitution as sleep. We shall rise refreshed in the morning."
- Benjamin Franklin
"The tomb is not a blind alley: it is a thoroughfare. It closes on the twilight. It opens on the dawn."
- Victor Hugo
"We do not believe in immortality because we can prove it, but we try to prove it because we cannot help believing it."
- Harriet Martineau
"Life is eternal, and love is immortal; and death is only a horizon; and a horizon is nothing save the limit of our sight."
- Anonymous
"The Body of B. Franklin Printer, Like the Cover of an Old Book,
Its Contents Torn Out, And Stripped of its Lettering and Gilding,
Lies Here Food for Worms, But the Work shall not be Lost,
For it Will as He Believed, Appear Once More,
In a New and more Elegant Edition, Revised and Corrected, By the Author."
Name:vvk •
Date: 12/01/11 22:42
A: Life after death is not a mystery
The difference between death and birth is only a thought moment: the last thought moment in this life conditions the first thought moment in the so called next life, which in fact is the continually of the same series. During this life itself, too, one thought moment conditions the next thought moment. So, from the Buddhist point of view, the question of life after death is not a great mystery, and a Buddhist is never worried about this problem.
- Ven. Dr. W. Rahula, “What the Buddha Taught”
vvk
Name:sam •
Date: 12/02/11 18:20
A: Hi V V K,
You wrote so much, and for what purpose?.
There are millions of different books which came from millions of writers, everyone has his own philosophy, and objective about the creation as the Buddhism, and Darwinism, and nothing in their teaching can be proved scientifically or logically. As for buddha who nearly died because not knowing that food is tha main source for life, even the animals knows this fact, and sitting unde the wisdom tree to receive wisdom, or Darwin who thought that he is the descendant from the family of apes !!!!.
On the other side there are four religions [hinduism, Jewdism, Christiany and Islam] all those who promotes the Idea of the existing of a creator [God], and while there are hundreds or even thousands of year apart , they came with the same teachings, and each one of them came with a prophecy about the comings of the one which follow it, that is from the VEDAS the holy books of the Hindu [4 to 5 thousand years ago, to the words of Jesus in the Gospels [some books been changed by the time by the essense of the teaching still survive.
That my answer to all what you wrote in your many posts, and the one when you claim the followings:
Here is a no exhaustive list of all those who, through centuries, believed in reincarnation. I shall mention here only individuals, not religions universally known for their adherence to the successive rebirth principle, as the Buddhism and Hinduism *. It seems that the world of before Christian era was generally reincarnationist.
* Hinduism have many books, like the Buddhism, many books in Hinduism came throughout centuries, things added all the time by their scholars, but the VEDAS are regarded as the principal ones, AND IT TEACHINS ABOUT THE ONE AND ONLY GOD, and you will see the truth for youself when you read my next post.
Name:sam •
Date: 12/02/11 18:40
A: Dear V V K,
Please read the post before this one. Thank you.
I hope that you read my entire post below, because you will come to see the truth about the religion of Islam when it was proven even by the Hindu religion, and after you let me know what you think about it. Thank you.
Thank you for your post. Here again you brought NAMES :
Sinan Ibn Salman , [you forget Salman Ibn Rushdi], and Aga Khan .
And the Ghulat, the Druze, the Alawi , for your information those are not Muslims, because there is only two sects of Muslims , the Sunny and the Shi’at and both believe in the Quran and of the prophet Muhammad, while those you mentioned they do not, and they are secretive in their religions.
MANY TIMES ‘I TOLD YOU’ THAT THE QURAN IS THE ONLY HOLY BOOK FOR MUSLIMS, ANY OTHER WRITING FROM WHATEVER SOURCE, OR FROM WHATEVER PERSON COMES DO NOT REPRESENT ISLAM, BUT ONLY REPRESENT THOSE PEOPLE OPINION, ALSO ‘I DID EXPLAIN TO YOU’ THE HADITH AND WHAT CAN BE ACCEPTED FROM IT, AND ONLY THOSE HADITH THAT PROVEN TO BE TRUE ARE ACCEPTED BUT HADITH WILL NEVER TAKE A PLACE WITH THE QURAN.
BUT I THINK THAT YOU ARE A SORT OF DUMP & NAIVE PERSON WHO THINK HE IS SMART WHILE YOU DO DON’T KNOW THE ISLAM RELIGION, AND DOES NOT UNDERSTAND EVEN THE VERY SIMPLE THING WHICH I PRESENTED TO YOU AGAIN AND AGAIN .
And you brought a verse from the Quran to prove your claim that “reincarnation” also in Islam, and as before you did not know the meaning of that verse, here the verse you quoted, and what it really means in the order from 1 to 4 :
“How can you disbelieve in GOD when you were dead and He gave you life (1) *, then He puts you to death (2), then He brings you back to life (3), and then to Him you will return (4)?” (2:28)
1)- You did not exist , and you brought to life....2)- after that came the death [no one live forever] ....3) this is the resurrection ** after death [ It is not on the earth - Jews, Christians and Muslim believe in it]....4) and at last the return to the presence of God in the day of Judgment.
(1)* - Q-57:17 KNOW THAT ALLAH GIVES LIFE TO THE EARTH AFTER ITS LIFELESSNESS . {The earth was just a rocks and dust, DEAD , no life on it, but God put in it LIFE when he gave it water and the seeds of life.}
** Resurrection NOT reincarnation, and there is big difference between the two.
Can you see V V K, that is not like the reincarnation in Buddhism , because people do not turn to ghosts, gods, or animal, with many rebirths. I hope you understand that.
HINDUISM RELIGION AND IT IS BOOKS CAME LONG, LONG BEFORE BUDDHISM, AND THEIR FOUR BOOKS OF THE VEDAS ARE REGARDED AS THE MOST SACRED.
JESUS AND MUHAMMAD IN PROPHESIED IN THE HINDU RELIGION:
King Shaka asked May I know, who you are . With apparent joy that male replied Know that I am the Son of God. I am born in the womb of a virgin. 'Easa Maseeha' is my well known name . (Bhavashya purana- Prathisarga parva, IIIrd part- 2nd chapter- 23rd verse.)
{So, Jesus [in the Quran 3:45 ...whose name will be the Messiah, Easa, the son of mary]
The name of Mohammad appears in the Hindu scriptures which are believed to have been written at the least 4000 years ago.
The translation of Verses 5-27 (Sanskrit text of the Puranas, Prati Sarg Parv III: 3, 3) is presented below from the work of Dr. Vidyarthi.
A malechha (belonging to a foreign country and speaking foreign language) spiritual teacher will appear with his COMPANION (1) . His name will be MAHAMAD (2)......O Ye the pride of mankind, the dweller in Arabia, Ye have collected a great force to kill the Devil and you yourself have been protected from the malechha opponents (3) (idol worshipers, pagans).....”
(1)- Companion [the four companions of the prophet Muhammad] , and the companion to a prophet only came with the Muslim religion.
(2) - The name Muhammad came many times in the Hindus books, and also was mentioned as AHMED, in which the Quran mentioned the prphet as Muhammad [4 times] and AHMAD [1 time].
(3) - Muhammad is the only prophet who destroyed the IDOLS [gods] worshiped by his own peoplep.
According to Bhavishya Purana, Parv – III Khand 1 Adhay 3 Shloka 21-23:
All good qualities are found in Musalmaans * and all sorts of vices have accumulated in the land of the Aryas. Islam will rule in India and its islands. Having known these facts, O Muni, glorify the name of thy lord”.
The prophesies in the VEDAS , did not only mentioned the names of the prophet , but also mentioned the name of Islam and it is followers the Muslims.
Prophet Muhammad is also prophesied in the Samveda Book II Hymn 6 verse 8:
“Ahmed acquired from his Lord the knowledge of eternal law *. I received light from him just as from the sun.” The Prophecy confirm.
* That is the Quran. The LAWS which the prophet Muhammad receive from His Lord , His God.
Among the four Vedas, Rigveda stands foremost and supreme for its complete authenticity. It is calculated that the nucleus of Rigveda was evolved between 1500 and 2600 BC...
The Sama Veda contains many prophecies of the advent of Prophet Mohammad.
Here, one of them is presented. It is found in Sama Veda, II:6,8: Ahmad acquired religious law (Shariah) from his Lord. This religious law is full of wisdom. I receive light from him just as from the sun.
LONG BEFORE BUDDHA THE HINDU WORSHIPPED GOD.
WORSHIPING ONE GOD IN THE HINDU RELIGION:
Upanishdas:
“He is One only without a second.” (Chandogya 6:2:1) *
“Of Him there are neither partners nor Lord.” (Svetsvatara 6:9)**
“There is no likness of Him.” (Svetsvatara 4:19)
“His form is not to be seen; no one sees Him with the eye.” (Svetsvatara 4:20)
The Vedas:
“There is no Image of Him.” (Yajurveda 32:3) ***
“He is bodiless and pure.” (Yajurveda 40:8)
AFTER MORE THAN 4000 YEARS CAME THE ISLAM RELIGION WITH THE SAME TEACHINGS, THAT THERE IS ONLY ONE GOD !!!!.
* Q- 9:31 ....And they were not commanded except TO WORSHIP ONE GOD; THERE IS NO DEITY EXCEPT HIM......
** Q- 25:2 He to whom belongs the dominion of the heavens and the earth and who has NOT TAKEN A SON AND HAS NOT HAD A PARTNER ......
*** Q- 42:11 HE IS THE CREATOR OF THE HEAVENS AND THE EARTH.....THERE IS NOTHING LIKE UNTO HIM.......
But is there a common scripture that is considered holy by all sections of Hindus ? Yes, the vedas (1) are the common holy scripture for the Hindus. In fact they gave Hinduism the name vaidika dharma, one of its old names.
What are vedas ? vedas, refer to the knowledge. That is the knowledge heard by the sages in their spiritual domain and passed across as it is as mantras. mantras(2) are the words of super-power.....
vedas have four parts - samhita, brAhmaNa, Aranyaka & upanishat....
WHO DO HINDUS WORSHIP?:
Hinduism has many Gods and Goddesses. Hindus worship these. They may also have a special/chosen God, but will show respect to all.
BUT ALSO, HINDUS WORSHIP ONE GOD:
In the system made by God, normally one gets to enjoy the good or bad things based on what have been their inclinations and the actions they made because of that. (This is called karma). There is no evil (satan type) against God. In fact atharva veda puts it very clearly,
na dvitIyo na tR^itIyashchaturtho nApyuchyate
na pa.nchamo na ShaShThaH saptamo nApyuchyate
nAShTamo na navamo dashamo nApyuchyate
ya etaM devamekavR^itaM veda
There is none second to It, neither third not even fourth.
There is none fifth to It, neither sixth not even seventh.There is none eighth to It, neither ninth not even tenth.
It is the only Supreme. This is to be known.
Hindus also believe in many Gods , (2. Devas)
who perform various functions, like executives in a large corporation. These should not be confused with the Supreme God. These Divinities are highly advanced beings who have specific duties and powers—not unlike the heavenly spirits, overlords or archangels revered in other faiths. EACH DENOMINATION WORSHIPS THE SUPREME GOD AND ITS OWN SET OF DIVINE BEINGS.
GREAT EXAMPLE TO HOW PEOPLE SWITCH THE TRUTH AND SPREAD LIES:
In a debate between Dr. Zakir Naik [Indian Muslim Scholar] and his holiness , the famous Sri Sri Ravi Shankar [Indian Hindu Scholar - read about him in the NET], his holiness, Mr. Shankar admitted that he made many mistakes in his book talking about Islam, and also he lied about his intention of writing his book, lie after lie after lie, BUT BY MISTAKE HE PROVED THAT MUHAMMAD NAME CAME IN THE HINDU SCRIPTURES, and that was in India, in front of thousands of people.
Please watch this part of the debate .
[Concept of God in Hinduism & Islam - Dr. Zakir Naik & Sri Sri Ravi Shankar - Part 14/18 ]
THE PROPHET MUHAMMAD MENTIONED BY JESUS:
John-16:5 through 13
But now I am going to HIM who sent Me
[ That is GOD].....
And He, when He comes, will convict the world concerning SIN and RIGHTEOUSNESS and JUDGMENT.
[No other one came after Jesus except Muhammad , and He brought the words of God about sin, righteousness and judgment.]
But when He, the spirit of truth, comes, He will guide you into all the truth; for He will not speak on His own initiative, but whatever He hears, He will speak....
[ The words of the Quran are not the words of Muhammad, but the words which He received from God.]
He will glorify Me [Jesus]....
[Jesus was glorified in the words of the Quran, while he was humiliated by the stories which the writers of the Gospels created false stories about Him, and there are many if you don’t know , I will be glad to bring them to you.
The Gospels which people read and believe in are not the originals but they are made of copies of copies of copies for unknown people , and there are many different versions of them. First came the KJB, there after came the REVISED version of the KJB, with adding things and deleting things, and in it is preface mentioning the grave errors in the old !!!!. OF CORSE THEY ADDED MORE ERRORS, WHICH A GOOD SCHOLAR CAN EASILY FIND . Watch or read the works of ‘Prof. Dr. Bart Ehrman.
All that remind me of you V V K, when you spread a lie that by me rejecting the HADITH , I done a evil things . And I did show you that A Hadith can be accepted or rejected , and it is not holy, since there is only one holy book for Muslims and it is the QURAN.
Please do watch the following video on YOUTUBE to learn more about the Islam and the Hindu religions.
[Prophet MUHAMMAD in Hindu Scriptures ]
[YouTubeIslam - Muhammad in the Hindu Scriptures - Dr Zakir Naik ]
[sri sri ravi shankar accepts mistakes ]
Your posts are important to me, and I always read them carefully, and I will answer as much of them as I can.
Thank you , and have a good weekend.
Sam
Name:vvk •
Date: 12/04/11 7:28
A: HI SAM
I decide do not go any further for now, because my next schedule coming do not allow me have some free time online.
whatever make most sense to you or with your own experience or the best with you,stay with it or practice in your life. once again thank a lot for all your time. now everything you can find the answer on line. and hopefully some one else will continue on this forum. below i have the references ,you don't have to believe in. or claim they try to make money on it. but some time it may come on TV. it's interesting to watch. or in yoube also online.
All their work base on none religion.
Many Lives, Many Masters
A spellbinding case history substantiating the effectiveness of past-life therapy. The book will open doors for many who have never considered the validity of reincarnation."
-- Richard Sutphen, author of Past Lives, Future Loves and You Were Born Again to Be Together
Dr. Weiss integrates concepts of traditional psychotherapy and the exploration of his patient's spiritual unconscious. My view of myself and others will never be quite the same."
-- Joel Rubinstein, M.D., former instructor of psychiatry at the Harvard Medical School now in private practice
An interesting, well-written and thought-provoking exploration of the influence of past-life therapy on present behavior. You cannot put it down without feeling empathetic with Dr. Weiss's conclusions."
-- Andrew E. Slaby, M.D., Ph.D., M.P.H. Medical Director, Fair Oaks Hospital
A profoundly moving account of one man's unexpected spiritual awakening. This significantly courageous book has opened the door to a marriage between science and metaphysics. Must reading for a soul-searching, hungry world."
-- Jeanne Avery, author of Astrology and Your Past Lives
As a traditional psychotherapist, Dr. Brian Weiss was astonished and skeptical when one of his patients began recalling past-life traumas that seemed to hold the key to her recurring nightmares and anxiety attacks. His skepticism was eroded, however, when she began to channel messages from "the space between lives," which contained remarkable revelations about Dr. Weiss's family and his dead son.
Using past-life therapy, he was able to cure the patient and embark on a new, more meaningful phase of his own career.
Past Life Regressions - Before the Show:
Before the show officially began, Oprah and Dr. Oz were backstage while Dr. Brian Weiss worked to hypnotize the entire audience. Dr. Weiss believes that we have all been here before and those experiences effect us in our current life.
Dr. Oz admitted before the show that he was "Mr. Skeptic" but that he was also hypnotized prior to the show and it deserves to be heard and examined.
Hypnosis helps to uncover past lives by a way of focusing concentration while the body relaxes. While hypnotized, access to the subconscious opens up and the daily mind is quieted allowing for deep memories to emerge....
According to Weiss, in 1980 one of his patients - "Catherine" - began discussing past life experiences under hypnosis. Weiss has stated that he did not believe in reincarnation at the time but, after confirming elements of Catherine's past-life stories through research into public records, came to be convinced of the survival of an element of the human personality after death.[2] Since 1980, Weiss claims he has regressed more than 4,000 patients.
Weiss advocates the therapeutic benefits of hypnotic regression, noting his belief that many present-life phobias and ailments are rooted in past-life experiences that - when acknowledged by the patient - have a curative effect on the present-life condition. Weiss also writes about the messages received by the Ascended masters he claims to have communicated through his subjects.
Past life regression and future life progression
According to Weiss, in 1980 one of his patients - "Catherine" - began discussing past life experiences under hypnosis. Weiss has stated that he did not believe in reincarnation at the time but, after confirming elements of Catherine's past-life stories through research into public records, came to be convinced of the survival of an element of the human personality after death.[2] Since 1980, Weiss claims he has regressed more than 4,000 patients.
Weiss advocates the therapeutic benefits of hypnotic regression, noting his belief that many present-life phobias and ailments are rooted in past-life experiences that - when acknowledged by the patient - have a curative effect on the present-life condition. Weiss also writes about the messages received by the Ascended masters he claims to have communicated through his subjects.
THIS IS ON CHRISTIAN FAMILY
Parents Think Boy Is Reincarnated Pilot
Six decades ago, a 21-year-old Navy fighter pilot on a mission over the Pacific was shot down by Japanese artillery. His name might have been forgotten, were it not for 6-year-old James Leininger.
Quite a few people — including those who knew the fighter pilot — think James is the pilot, reincarnated.
James' parents, Andrea and Bruce, a highly educated, modern couple, say they are "probably the people least likely to have a scenario like this pop up in their lives."
But over time, they have become convinced their little son has had a former life.
From an early age, James would play with nothing else but planes, his parents say. But when he was 2, they said the planes their son loved began to give him regular nightmares.
"I'd wake him up and he'd be screaming," Andrea told "Primetime Live" co-anchor Chris Cuomo. She said when she asked her son what he was dreaming about, he would say, "Airplane crash on fire, little man can't get out." ...
Always best wish to you and your family as well. hopefully have some good chance come back to this later.
your unwanted brother online
VVK.
Name:sam •
Date: 12/04/11 20:57
A: Dear V V K,
I hope that you come just once to read this post, but in case you did not, I wish you all the best for your next schedule , and I wish you and your family many years of happiness and god health. Good luck to you .
8 January is my 74th. birthday.
If I am older than you, then you are as a wanted younger brother to me, and if I use words that you did not like, you should know that I use the same words for my younger brothers and sisters, and that does mean that I don't respect them, but only to tell them that they are to careful in what they say, and they shouls not believe everything that they read or hear, and they should use the logic and the scients and the common sense. And we do argue about many thing so many times, sprcially when they bring Hadith or some Imam say. After all that we love and respect each other.
I hope that the same will be among me and you my brother.
Weiss & hypnotic .
My father was a real scientist, who never worked in all his life but all his time was spent in studing phisics and chemestry, and the LAB. he built during many years was much better than the university LAB., in which many Uni. student came to ask his advice, and work with him.
HYONOTIC was part of his research, and practiced some times on his brothers and sisters and freinds.
I was a teenager 14 -16 when I witnessed two of his sessions.
The first:
In a family gathering, my father was talking about hypnotic and about what he read about the many experiments done by many all around the world.
His brother knowing about his work, asked him to do a session on him, and that it.
While my uncle in the state of sleep, answering questions, the door bill rung, and before opening the door, someone asked, "can he know who is outside?", and my father asked for the name , and the answer was a name of lady relative, and then asked what she is carrying, and the answer came discribing the hanbag, and after what in it.
When the door opened, and she walked in , everybody was loghing, and they told her what happen , and she oppened the handbag and empty it on the table, and everything was there as my uncle discribe while he was under hypnosis.
Second time,
At home there was a gathering of the family and friends, and at that time there was a crime [killing] , three months before , and not been solved , and one of the friend asked my father if it is possible to find out the killer using hypnotic, and after insisting for all, my father chooses his younger sister [my aunt] for that.
While she was in state of sleep, he gave her the question, and she gave the full name.
In our small town people know everyone, but this name was unknown to many because the person is only known by his nickname, that is until one friend said , "Is that the son of so & so [i cannot remember the name, it is too long since then], and I knew him at the school, he was with me, and the children gave him the nickname which everybody know him with".
My father asked everyone to promiss him not to mention the person name . and let the police do their job, afraid that his sister might be wrong.
Few weeks later the man mentioned was caught.
Many questions were raised during the years about hypnotic, specially about what can the person under hypnotism give from information.
Hypnotic, has a limitation, and such a subject need a lot of works to explain it, so I will leave it to some other time when you have the time.
Thank you for reading my post, and I will visit this site while you away.
My works will be only to bring out some of my findings and my thoughts, and it is for me to do some works at this age, that is all.
Wish you all the success at the work you doing.
sam.
Name:vvk •
Date: 01/16/12 18:47
A: HI SAM
HAPPY 74th BIRTHDAY
Best wishes to ALL during the year 2012.
Hope world is always peace. economy getting better. nice weather for all in the world.
I busy with my job. we might move to southwest America in a few month.
Take care Brother.
VVK.
Name:sam •
Date: 01/20/12 17:50
A: Dear V V K,
Thank you,
I WISH YOU ALL THE BEST FOR YOUR , but I wonder if is what you mentioned as "SOUTHWEST AMERICA" is the Southwest of the United State, or in in the other part of the American continent ?.
I would like to know, and after your move I wish that we can keep our talk and the good relation that built in past the many years.
GOOD LUCK TO YOU AND YOUR FAMILY WHEREVER YOU GO, AND IN WHATEVER YOU DO.
sam
Name:Brad Watson, Miami •
Date: 06/01/14 15:46
A: vvk,
Thanks for all this! Mind if I copy it onto some sites while giving you credit?
Through running thee experiment, I've discovered 'Seal #7: Reincarnation Theory & its 23 Principles/Theory of Luck (ex. Einstein returned as Watson)'. Google that and or see http://7seals.blogspot.com . The proof of my eternal soul's last incarnation can be found by googling 'The 17 Requirements of Albert Einstein reincarnated' and by seeing my tweaked NASA conference presentation of 4/21/14 where I use Einstein's sought after "unified field theory" to produce "Identifying 'True Earth-like Planets' - All New Worlds Are Built On 7_4 (like Earth) Or 6_4" at http://PlanetNestor.blogspot.com .
2,000 years ago, I was Y'shua bar Yosef and this is proven by my fulfilling the prophecy of Rev 5:1-10:10 by producing the "book/scroll...sealed with 7 seals"/'beyond Einstein theories'. See http://7seals.blogspot.com .
Thanks again for all your work and trouble. Do you know who you were in your last incarnation?
