Name:dattaswami •
Title: The whole world is the kingdom of God •
Date posted: 05/18/07 17:56
Q: The whole world is the kingdom of God
You must realize that the whole world is the kingdom of God as stated by Jesus. Any injustice will be punished by Him and you need not worry about it. Your view of the punishment is revenge but His view of punishment is to transform the soul. If somebody has stolen your money, don’t pray to God to punish that person. Everything is recorded by Him unlike the courts which register the case only when a complaint is given.
The enquiry by God takes place immediately. Sometimes you find no punishment from God and you are scolding God. The silence of God means that the enquiry was completed and the judgment was “no punishment”. In the previous birth, you might have stolen money from that person and today you paid along with the compound interest. In this case there cannot be punishment and the enquiry was over. Since you do not know this, you mistake God for His silence.
Suppose such background is not there, then you will get your money with interest in some other way which is compensated by God. That person will lose the money along with the interest. You will see it with your eyes. But suppose you cursed that person with revenge, you will receive the punishment in addition to the above. Kauravas stole a share of wealth of Pandavas and finally they lost their whole kingdom. Pandavas gained the total kingdom which is double the share. But Draupadi was cursing Kauravas aspiring always for the revenge.
She was also punished for this as she lost all her children. Therefore, we should not scold even our enemy even by words or mind. God takes care of the entire case. If the injustice wins, it is a black mark for His administration only. He is well aware of it and will take the necessary action. He is more serious in your case than yourself. Unlike the court, He does not require registration of case or witness or advocate. When Hiranyakashipu tortured Prahlada, Prahalada kept silent and did not curse him in any way.
The Lord took very serious action in that case. Thus you have to keep God at every step as the basis in the worldly life also (Pravrutti). Jesus told that unless you excuse others, you cannot be excused by God. Your enemy will be punished if he does not excuse others. Such behaviour which indicates the full faith on God at every step of the life is divine Dharma in Pravrutti or Nivrtutti.
At the Lotus Feet of His Holiness Sri Dattaswami
Anil Antony
www.universal-spirituality.org
Universal Spirituality for World Peace [email protected]
Name:Panluna •
Date: 05/18/07 20:58
A: AMEN!!! and NAMESTE!!!!
Name:dattaswami •
Date: 05/19/07 8:09
A: Panluna ;
Injustice winning in this world? Never!
Shri Partha Sarathi (USA) asked Swami about his financial loss continuously due to the victory of injustice in this world.
Swami replied: The injustice will never win because if it happens so in this divine rule of God, it is only blame to His administration. With the limited knowledge of this birth, you cannot decide the justice. In view of all the previous births and the deeds in the previous births, God gives judgment, which is perfectly justified in the wide range of all the previous births. If you criticize God, God will leave you with the due justice as per the cycle of deeds. If you are a devotee of God, God will compensate your financial loss through some other way at a later date.
If you are wasting the present time in worry, the compensation of finance may be done but you cannot have the compensation of the lost past time. Hence, you should take the help of the spiritual knowledge and try to be happy even in the misery so that you will not loose both time as well as money. If you are worried, you cannot concentrate on God and your devotion also becomes week and your financial compensation in the future also gets correspondingly reduced. Therefore, you must be brave in the troubles without any worry and maintain the concentrated devotion to God.
At the Lotus Feet of His Holiness Sri Dattaswami
Anil Antony
www.universal-s-pirituality.org
Universa-l- Spirituality for World Peace [email protected]
Name:Panluna •
Date: 05/19/07 14:50
A: Injustice is caused by humans.It is not caused by God who remains a neutral force.
Name:betty47 •
Date: 05/21/07 12:51
A: Yes. I do believe God is everywhere and God is in everyone. Very nice thoughts. Thanks!
Name:Ladyhawk •
Date: 05/21/07 14:47
A: At the risk of being a real party pooper, does anybody in any discussion today (with the exceptions of Panluna and Betty) have an opinion that can be expressed without spray painting scripture and quotation from one end of this site to the other?
Religion becomes a tool for the mindless when people stop thinking for themselves, and scriptutal prostlytizing is the coward's way out of forming any thought of one's own.
G_d (in any form, in any culture), deserves better than this.
Name:betty47 •
Date: 05/21/07 19:21
A: Thanks, LadyHawk. It does seem like certain people are trying to convert others, doesn't it? What amazes me is the evolution of thoughts in religion and how many are so similar. There was a king in Eqypt who believed in one God. There were Greeks who believed in virgin births. Somehow many thoughts merged together, but in the end created different religions. I haven't seen anyone yet who is promoting the we came from aliens idea yet on this site, but we have seemed to have almost every other thought expressed. I guess the more, the merrier.
Name:Ladyhawk •
Date: 05/21/07 20:09
A: I think we need Scientologists for the alien connection! :)
There is no progress in dueling scripture. It's just inane. What would be interesting would be a thread where everybody (without benefit of scripture) identified (by name) their faith, explained how they had come to it, and what it meant to them personally, and told how they walked the talk so as to make a better world for all.
We have common denominators. THAT's what we should be talking about.
Name:JMD •
Date: 05/21/07 21:36
A: June Singer: "Worldly Names Deceive"
"Names given to the worldly are deceptive;
they divert our thoughts from what is correct
to what is incorrect.
Thus one who hears the word 'god'
does not perceive what is correct,
but perceives what is incorrect.
So is it also with 'the father' and 'the son'
and the 'holy spirit' and 'life' and 'light'
and 'resurrection' and 'the church' and all the rest.
People do not perceive what is correct
but they perceive what is incorrect
unless they have come to know [through gnosis] what is correct.
The names which are heard in this world deceive...
[The Gospel of Philip, N.H.Library]
"In darkness and silence, we shift our attention from one reality to another. What seemed to be clear enough in the light of day becomes less certain after night has fallen. Words no longer hold the meaning for us that they once did. At night it is possible to recognize that words are nothing but arbitrary signs that the authorities have agreed upon in order to formulate ideas or to describe objects. Words bestow limitations on our perceptions....
...When darkness and silence come upon us, we have no need of words or concepts or deceptions of any kind. It then becomes possible to see with the inner eye, which pierces the veils that separate the worlds. At such times we can observe that individuals give their own personal meaning to the words they utter....
...we blindly accept the proclamations of those in authority who presume to describe such mysteries as 'god' and 'the father' and 'the son' and 'the holy spirit,' which they have not seen and do not know!"
"...The names that are used in the eternal world are not used in the temporal world, for they would have no meaning in the language of this world. To have meaning in the eternal realm requires a way of knowing that is not dependent upon the conventions of a particular place or society. Wordless contemplation and reflection, when there is no light save the light within, leads the seeker toward the perception of what is correct."
Name:Messiah •
Date: 05/21/07 21:49
A: ] The whole world is the kingdom of God
Well, It's NOT the real whole world Jesus talks about, it's the perseption of the whole world that is the Kingdom of God - the teaching. The kingdom itself reside in the heads of those who follow the teachings of Abrahamic religions such as Christianity, Judaism and Islam, were God is the supreme diety.
To enter the kingdom of God one has to ensure that one is remembered in the afterlife which is the basic key of understanding the kingdom of God (reside in the heads of the followers).
Dismantling these Abrahamic religions and trace their true source one can interpret that: "God" is the personification of ancient Greek combination of "Logos" and "Gnosis", which in simple words is translated to the ability to keep knowledge within your head, reason about it to harwest understanding and communicate with others.
Everything else is just about ethics and different ways to keep the masses stable.
I hope you all know that the early andtrue Christians could explain God's existance using Logics, but to be able to survive Christianity had to compromise and evolve many times with both Egyptians who had living Gods and the Germanic/Goths who worshipped successful dead heros to be successful in this life as well as other spiritualistic forces.
The 300AD Christianity of Constantine is a cherrypicking mixture of religions to satisfy many different frustrations of the at-the-time unstable masses. It wasn't actually until one could get rich by forcing Christianity upon others, that Christianity took it's giant grab of mankind - forcing everybody to belive it's view of life. Knights and other "Nobles" did what was officially right and earned load of land and wealth which one easily could trace all up to modern times...
Life is wonderful... And don't forget: - "God" never punish anyone. God is "just" the force that make humans punish each others based and accepted by certain teachings.
/Messiah
Name:Anchorite •
Date: 05/22/07 3:05
A: FINANCIAL RHYMES
Taxes and brackets, percentage and mortgage
Staying the bailiff, reduction of porridge
Balancing cheques, watching the debt
These are a few of my favorite frets
Up-dating CVs and chasing the buses
Hoping a raise will outstrip all my losses
Stocks that are stuck, bonds in a bind
Showing no interest in saving my mind
My retirement, kiddie's dentist
Future woe, perdition
Not to mention, micro-pension
To hell with it all, I'll just vote Communist!
~Anchorite
Name:dattaswami •
Date: 05/22/07 16:32
A: Messiah;
Please analyse the following care fully;
Why good people are suffering?
Some people say that even good people are unnecessarily harmed. They criticize God. You cannot decide any person as a good person. Did you observe him every minute from his birth? You also think yourself as a good person. Are you aware of your sins done in your childhood? You might have harmed an innocent insect in your childhood. Do you remember that? Even mental feelings are sins, which may not be expressed in words and actions. The feelings of the mind are the source of words and actions. Therefore the feeling may not hurt others today. But tomorrow it will hurt others which will come out in words and actions. In fact, intention is given more importance in the crime according to law. The judge gives more importance to the intention in giving the punishment. You are walking on the road and the ant is killed by your foot, without any intention. There is no punishment for such sins. But when you kill the same ant with intention, you are punished by God. Therefore mind is the source of action.
If somebody harmed really a good person, then also leave it to God. You should not revenge. Why? The reason is that you cannot judge the exact nature and line of the case. You do not remember your own sins. Some times you do the sin thinking that it is good. You cannot be the standard in judging your own sins. Only the Lord can decide. Therefore, if somebody harmed really a good person, in the view of the Lord also, then the Lord himself will punish him.
You cannot take the law and order in to your hand. You have to refer the case to the court. Let the Judge decide, and punish the criminal. Therefore the Lord said, “Revenge is Mine”. If the revenge is justified, the Lord will certainly punish. The Lord will not revenge if you pray Him to do so. The Lord, will not excuse even if you recommend the unjust case.
Neither you have the power to punish nor to excuse anybody. The reason for this is that you are not omniscient. If a sinner realizes the sin and repents, the punishment is reduced. After repentance if you do not repeat the sins, the punishment is cancelled. If the sinner does not repent, he will repeat the sin again and again. Such sinner can be controlled only by punishment. If this is not true the police department has no use. There are some sinners who can be controlled only by third degree treatment. If such punishment and revenge are not required, and if everybody can be transformed by preaching, then what is the necessity of the existence of’ Hell and Liquid Fire’.
If such possibility of transformation by love and knowledge is there, then why the Lord mentioned the word ‘revenge’ at all? Therefore this means that there are some sinners who cannot be transformed by love and knowledge. Some clever people criticize Lord Rama and Lord Krishna, who have resorted to punish the sinners. Such clever people should answer about the word ‘revenge’ uttered by the Lord and also should explain the mention of the liquid fire in the scriptures. If all the human beings can be transformed through love and knowledge such words should not have been mentioned in their scriptures.
