Name:vvk •
Title: WOMEN MUSLIM ARE ALWAYS #1 (NEW GIFT TO THE DEATH ) •
Date posted: 04/26/12 18:56
Q: Outrage as Egypt plans 'farewell intercourse law' so husbands can have sex with DEAD wives up to six hours after their death
By Lee Moran
PUBLISHED: 04:28 EST, 26 April 2012 | UPDATED: 05:55 EST, 26 April 2012
Egyptian husbands will soon be legally allowed to have sex with their dead wives - for up to six hours after their death.
The controversial new law is part of a raft of measures being introduced by the Islamist-dominated parliament.
It will also see the minimum age of marriage lowered to 14 and the ridding of women's rights of getting education and employment.
Controversial: The 'farewell intercourse' law is part of a raft of measures being introduced by the Islamist-dominated parliament
Egypt's National Council for Women is campaigning against the changes, saying that 'marginalising and undermining the status of women would negatively affect the country's human development'.
Dr Mervat al-Talawi, head of the NCW, wrote to the Egyptian People’s Assembly Speaker Dr Saad al-Katatni addressing her concerns.
Egyptian journalist Amro Abdul Samea reported in the al-Ahram newspaper that Talawi complained about the legislations which are being introduced under 'alleged religious interpretations'.
The subject of a husband having sex with his dead wife arose in May 2011 when Moroccan cleric Zamzami Abdul Bari said marriage remains valid even after death.
He also said that women have the right to have sex with her dead husband, alarabiya.net reported.
It seems the topic, which has sparked outrage, has now been picked up on by Egypt's politicians.
Outrage: Egyptian husbands could soon have sex with their dead wives if a new law is approved (file picture)
TV anchor Jaber al-Qarmouty slammed the notion of letting a husband have sex with his wife after her death under the so-called 'Farewell Intercourse' draft law.
He said: 'This is very serious. Could the panel that will draft the Egyptian constitution possibly discuss such issues? Did Abdul Samea see by his own eyes the text of the message sent by Talawi to Katatni?
'This is unbelievable. It is a catastrophe to give the husband such a right! Has the Islamic trend reached that far? Is there really a draft law in this regard? Are there people thinking in this manner?'
I am a Muslim, and there is no such thing in Islam.
Those are LIES, the creation of the the Christians and the Hindu, and the Buddhists.
You are an IDIOT , STUPID, and DUMMMM to bring such a thing, and not knowing a thing about the Muslims religion.
Name:sam •
Date: 04/27/12 23:23
A: V V K,
You should know that all Muslim, all around the world, and from 1400 years the never keep the body of a dead person, man or woman, for more than 24 hours.
I a person die at night or in the morning, the body will be cleansed then taken to a Mosque for prayer then after will be burried [covered only by a white cloth and put in the ground], and no fancy boxes or expencive ceremonies as in the Christians, Hindues, and Buddhists.
A Christian CASKET /COFFIN for the rich can cost a fortune, and the church expenses depend on the statues of the person, that is facts,
all dead Muslims will put in the same kind of coffin and pays a little amount to the Mosque to help with expenses, it is up to the familiy to pay what they can, and the poor will pay nothing.
I watched decomentary on the National Geographic about Buddhist burrial ceremony on an island in Indonisia, and they keep the dead person for many days, until the family can arrenge the cost for the ceremonies and the food and the drinks [a big party- for sure]
NOT IN ISLAM - A DEAD PERSON WILL END IN THE GRAVE MOST OF THE TIME IN THE SAME DAY.
THE 9 DAYS YOU TALKED ABOUT A VERY BIG LIE.
Name:vvk •
Date: 04/28/12 4:09
A: The Buddhist Funeral Service
In the time of the Buddha, there was no set service for Buddhist funerals. A simple cremation would be all that was required.
Buddhist funeral services today vary widely between the major Buddhist traditions, and even within a single Buddhist tradition. These different funeral customs reflect the different cultures in which Buddhism has developed and have nothing at all to do with Buddhism itself. Consequently, modern Buddhists have the freedom to design a funeral service appropriate to each situation.
It helps to understand the aim of a Buddhist funeral service. The ceremony is designed to be of compassionate help to two parties: the deceased and the relatives & friends.
According to Buddhism life does not end at a person's death. It understands that the mind, or stream of consciousness, leaves the body at the moment of death, creating what is called a mind made body that can see and hear its surroundings. This is the same as the medical phenomena known as NDE (Near Death Experiences) where the death process is incomplete and the person recovers to tell of the experience. Thus, when a person is newly dead, they commonly linger around for a shorter or longer period, and are able to experience their surroundings with their mind made body before departing to their next existence. Bearing this in mind, the most important part of the Buddhist funeral service is to encourage the deceased person to let go of any residual attachment to their immediate past life in order to be free to journey on to their next life. Therefore many of the ceremonies, such as teachings on letting go and forgiveness ceremonies, are mainly intended to free the deceased from clinging to the things of this world.
It is unfortunately common that relations and friends suffer greatly at the death of a loved one. The Buddhist funeral service should have as one of its main goals the relief of suffering caused by such grief, This goal can be effectively achieved by teaching the Dhamma, through chanting meaningful verses, and by performing the forgiveness ceremony. A successful funeral service would be one that lessens the burden of grief, strengthens the acceptance of the impermanence of this human life, and increases wisdom and compassion so that all may live their life more meaningfully.
A suggested Buddhist Funeral Ceremony
The love that you have for your deceased relation is not measured by the amount of money that you spend on their funeral! Instead it is shown by how thoughtfully you make the arrangements. Money is better spent on a charity dear to the deceased or by printing and distributing for free a Dhamma book, and then transferring the merits.
The ceremony can consist of a sermon, or a reading from an inspiring book, concerning the nature of death. Some chanting, preferably something that the deceased would recognize. For example th Metta Sutta is a very common chant at Buddhist funerals, and it may even be chanted in English. Then would come a forgiveness ceremony, in which the family and friends are invited to ask forgiveness from the deceased for anything done by body, speech or mind, intentional or unintentional, that may have hurt or irritated the deceased, and also for anything that should have been done or said that they failed to do. The MC then asks for forgiveness from the relatives and friends on behalf of the deceased person. Finally, the family can announce any charity done in memory of the deceased so that the ceremony can conclude with a sharing of the merits from this and other virtuous acts. Another increasingly popular part of modern Buddhist funeral ceremonies is to invite a few close friends or relations to say a few words about the life of the deceased. These are called the "eulogies" and are often the most moving moments of the entire ceremony.
You may notice that there is no mention of burning paper money, houses or other representations of worldly wealth. Such paper burning is cultural, not Buddhist, and the money spent could produce far more benefit for the deceased, as well as for others, if it were used on charitable donations instead.
Such Buddhist Funeral Services are becoming ever more popular. This is because relatives and friends do not want an expensive ritual that they don't understand. Instead, they require a ceremony that is both moving and meaningful, and that gives an inspiring farewell to a person dearly loved, for the last time.
With Mega Metta,
Ajahn Brahm
Name:vvk •
Date: 04/28/12 4:41
A: Buddhist Funeral Rites
A real Buddhist funeral is a simple, solemn and dignified religious service.
Religious Day
As practised in many Buddhist countries, a real Buddhist funeral is a simple, solemn and dignified ceremony. Unfortunately, some people have included many unnecessary, extraneous items and superstitious practices into the funeral rites. The extraneous items and practices vary according to the traditions and customs of the people. They were introduced in olden days by people who probably could not understand the nature of life, nature of death, and what life would be after death. When such ideas were incorporated into Buddhist practices, people tended to blame Buddhism for expensive funeral rites. If only the Buddhist public would approach proper persons who have studied the real Teachings of the Buddha and Buddhist tradition, they could receive advice on how to perform Buddhist funeral rites. It is most unfortunate that a bad impression has been created that Buddhism encourages people to waste their money and time on unnecessary practices. It must be clearly understood that Buddhism has nothing to do with such debased practices.
Buddhists are not very particular regarding the burial or cremation of a dead body. In many Buddhist countries, cremation is customary. For hygienic and economic reasons, it is advisable to cremate. Today, the population in the world is increasing and if we continue to have dead bodies occupying valuable land, then one day all remaining available land will be occupied by the dead and the living will have no place to live.
There are still some people who object to the cremation of dead bodies. They say that cremation is against god's law, in the same way they have objected to many other things in the past. It will take some time for such people to understand that cremation is much more appropriate and effective than burial.
On the other hand Buddhists do not believe that one day someone will come and awaken the departed persons spirits from their graveyards or the ashes from their urns and decide who should go to heaven and who should go to hell.
The consciousness or mental energy of the departed person has no connection with the body left behind or his skeleton or his ashes. Many people believe that if the deceased is not given a proper burial or if a sanctified tombstone is not placed on the grave, then the soul of the deceased will wander to the four corners of the world and weep and wail and sometimes even return to disturb the relatives. Such a belief cannot be found anywhere in Buddhism.
Buddhists believe that when a person dies, rebirth will take place somewhere else according to his good or bad actions. As long as the person possesses the craving for existence, he must experience rebirth. Only the Arahants, who have gone beyond all passions will have no more rebirths and so after their death, they will attain their final goal Nibbana.
Name:QuebecIndieAnna •
Date: 04/29/12 4:31
A: VVK
Would you not agree that what you report is an isolated, specific to one report and country, that your title is provocative and meant to enflame and in poor taste?
Indie
Name:sam •
Date: 04/29/12 17:52
A: Hello Indie,
Thank you for mentioning this subject and telling the truth to V V K, to what such lies and the many others like it can create {"that your title [V V K], is provocative and meant to enflame and in poor taste?"} .
I DO HOPE THAT V V K UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU SAID. It seems to me and by going back to his many posts in the past that he is not the sort of person who look for the truth, or he accept what is logic, and in all his work he try spend time to find and take from any source what those who hate Islam created from lies .
My advice to V V K, and any person who read such false claims before accept them to search for the truth, and of cource I don't want them to check first whith the Muslim scholars [since the hate Islam], but ask the Christians, the Jewish , the Hindus and the Buddhists scholars who accepted Islam, and there are thousands of them in the internet [YOUTUBE & OTHER SOURCES] .
Indie, I live in Canada, and in Toronto there is a monthly magazine for the "EGYPTIAN COPTIC CHRISTIANS", and I came to read some of the articles in this magazine and they bring all sort of lies against Islam and the Muslims, and what a shame to see that from such people talking about their country Egypt, and about the the people who share with them that land for many centuries. If the Muslims are so bad, then, how can they survive all that time among the Arabs and the Muslims and freely practice their relgion and builds many churches all over the country ????
The Egyptians Christian Coptic are the one who created the story which V V K mentioned, that is all.
